Pubs: 214 losses, 0 wins
How are you guys doing with the new matchmaking? I can’t seem to beat the top 1%, so my experience this season has been significantly disenchanting. My pubs went from 90% (real) Masters/Preds to 99%...
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It is almost impossible to play 214 games and not get a win, even you are the worst player on the planet you can get carried, unless:
You think you are pro level player and hot dropping and try to send the lobby and leave the game after getting knocked. Bad news for you if you are not already good enough to do that after 1000 hours you will never get that good it has nothing to do with matchmaking. Just try to play like an average player and you will get wins. Never think that those streamers you watch are the 1%, they are like 0.01%. Not everyone has the skill to do that.
You just want a lobby full of lower skilled players than you so you can feel the illusion that you are good at the game.
@el7uarvszheo wrote:It is almost impossible to play 214 games and not get a win, even you are the worst player on the planet you can get carried, unless:
You think you are pro level player and hot dropping and try to send the lobby and leave the game after getting knocked. Bad news for you if you are not already good enough to do that after 1000 hours you will never get that good it has nothing to do with matchmaking. Just try to play like an average player and you will get wins. Never think that those streamers you watch are the 1%, they are like 0.01%. Not everyone has the skill to do that.
You just want a lobby full of lower skilled players than you so you can feel the illusion that you are good at the game.
I don't think that's the case here. The OP is extremely good at the game. They're just at the middle of the top of the top.
I'm in a similar situation but a very different bucket. I am too good for the lower bucket and not good enough for the next one up.
This season I have been having fun, though (so far) because even though I'm never as good as the winning team (especially since I only queue solo), I am as good as many of the other players in the lobby. So I die, but I also get a few kills, which makes me enjoy the match far more than in the past. I am MVP many times, too, even though I never win, so that's good, I guess (I think that mostly comes from hidden "points" I get for pinging enemies, as if that makes me skilled.)
Well, you will hit a wall when you can't hot drop and win games after a certain point unless you become so good there is no one in the lobby that can stop you. You can't ask for 57 lesser skilled opponents so you can farm them like they are NPC.
I can understand if someone with 0.5 k/d complain about SBMM.
I can understand if you get 3 stack strong teams while your teammates are bad.
But I can't understand asking for lesser skilled opponents.
Also, being good at the game is a little relative. In my experience no one without multiple pred badges can be considered extremely good at the game. Even you have 5 k/d it does not mean anything if it is on pubs.
- @el7uarvszheo Not sure why you think he would be lying. The lobbies he describes do exist. Season 13 I was in them. I had good teammates every game but every single person in the lobby had all the badges and trails. It was by far the hardest season I've ever had to get wins. Thankfully the game has realized I'm not at that level.
Not trying to go against your reply or anything, I believe you.
Question I'm curious about is would you have believed such lobbies/experiences exist if you weren't in them 1st hand? And would you have taken someone's word for it existing (over Respawn's) even though others said the same but your experience was different?
It boggles my mind that the experience in this game is so varied for so many people? Where is the consistency and what is causing the lack of it?
- @blackeyeriver Is that question directed at me?
If so, yes.
I mean, as it pertains to different lobbies for different people, you are absolutely right. But I guess I know this from first hand experience because I have a multitude of accounts (with the specific purpose of testing matchmaking).
- @el7uarvszheo
I’m pretty disappointed in your response. Even still, I mean no disrespect.
I have and will continue to share my experience and matchmaking findings here on the forum. Maybe you’re unaware, but I have shared multiple experiments—across multiple account types, here on the forum.
When I play at full capacity, I occupy the top bucket of players (in pubs). Let me make this clear:
If a matchmaking system does not allow for downward mobility (losing matches grants easier lobbies), you end up locking players at the bottom of a bucket into a “fixed situation” where the rest of the people in said bucket beat them consistently.
Stay with me….
I have hit Masters every split except 3-4. I have solo queue twice to Masters. I am not great (Pred level), but I am certainly above average. The issue is: matchmaking drops me in the top bucket and I’m exclusively playing Preds and better Masters. So I (and plenty of other players) are locked into a situation where we lose more BECAUSE we are above average.
I don’t want to bully weaker players consistently, LMAO. That would be so lame. But I also don’t want outcomes that are similar to (and in some instances worse than) people who are less proficient than me. I think this is a TOTAL SANE AND FAIR expectation. Your outcomes should be in direct correspondence to your skill level (as it deviates from the average/median skill).@Axs5626Sxa5001Yes, this is the bucket I'm in. Nothing but Master/Pred lobbies forever. I've maintained a 3-4 K:D since season 3, this season my K:D is less than half of last season. Avg Dmg from ~1100 to ~600.
It feels like I'm being punished for being decent at the game. I'm being kept away from 95% of the population. Constant sweat-fests are not fun.On top of that, more cheaters than ever.
I just uninstalled. My Valk skin will have to wait to be leveled-up I guess.- @Twizted3k_tv
You ever work overtime and get a check that’s actually less than people who worked less (due to taxes). That’s the feeling of matchmaking right now for above average players, lol.
- @Axs5626Sxa5001 Perfectly sane and fair expectation, nothing wrong with it.
Just a question, do you spend money on the game regularly and if not, have you ever considered dropping some cash to see if it influences your testing / results? Very curious here. It seems you are in a perfect situation to verify this if you really wanted to.- @blackeyeriver I have spent a lot on this game, lol.
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