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Re: ALG picks and why Apex is becoming boring because of it

Just made a thread below yours with some popular teams using Caustic. In character based games you’ll always have a set of meta characters like in LoL, DOTA and I assume Overwatch too. As the game’s roster continues to grow, it’ll only get harder for them to balnce legends. Some legends will eventually be left out and only good for pubs like LL and Mirage unless a rework happens.

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  • KelRiever's avatar
    KelRiever
    4 years ago

    Pretty much as Cheesman said.

    I've become bored with ranked as I've said in another thread.  The higher in ranked you go, the less interesting it becomes.  I mean, if you like to focus on something so devoid of options, akin to making sure you hammer 1 nail straight as a competition, then this is for you.

    But I'm pretty sure, since this game is marketed as having tons of legends and options and always adding to the game, the dying variety is not exactly appealing to the masses who play this thing.

  • Voidraker's avatar
    Voidraker
    4 years ago

    I mean every game has a meta I get that, I just think there should be tweaks to the top 3 characters to make them less meta and the bottom 5 to make them more meta.  

    Is it really a hard thing to do?  This is an actual question because some of the fixes the community has mentioned would make the characters much better.  

  • @Voidraker JayBiebs takes into account a lot of things when balancing legends unlike the previous guy who made drastic changes for the sake of change (will never forget nerfing to the ground Caustic, Pathfinder, and Wattson) so it’s not that easy. There’s pick rate, win rate, and being meta in the ALGS are some of those factors. What I don’t understand though is the complete neglect for Lifeline for multiple seasons now but from the leaks, they might have a soft rework on the way.

    Some of the community suggestions might have been placed for future legends like that Pathfinder zoom-in passive that was suggested.
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    4 years ago

    @Cheese9ManLifeline gets ignored because her pick rate it still top 6 or so overall. The lifeline mains will never give up. lol

    What I want to do is go back to the beginning of the game and swap the latest legends for the originals and then release the originals. I bet the newer ones pick rates would be higher overall because people feel this loyalty to certain charactwrs.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    4 years ago
    @Voidraker Yes it is hard to do because the game is played so differently from ALGS to pubs. Then you have a huge variation in maps. Gibby isnt nearly as strong low level or in pubs so nerfing him for algs would hurt him a lot there. Some characters are better than others on certain maps too. Caustic and wattson were great on original KC and WE but they keep taking away buildings and shadow nerfing them.
  • @hayhor I think the majority of new players pick Lifeline because the tutorial is with her lol.😃

  • pandareno1999's avatar
    pandareno1999
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    Gibralter is the perfect example of how difficult it must be to approach balance in a game like this.  Close to 100% pick rate in competitive, yet endless cries for a buff from the lower tiers of play.

  • reconzero's avatar
    reconzero
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @pandareno1999 Nailed it. Apex isn't one game. It's two and which one you're playing depends on whether you're a top 5% player or whether you're a normal human being. Grindy aimbotters can have their game, whichever meta they choose. The game I play has absolutely nothing to do with what ALGS does, and while I complain endlessly about legend imbalances, I'm sure my balance ideas would be laughed at by the most competitive players.
  • Dragadur's avatar
    Dragadur
    Seasoned Rookie
    4 years ago
    @pandareno1999 That's weird because from what I've seen, most of the playerbase in the lower tiers want him nerfed, specifically his gun-shield and/or passive.
  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    4 years ago
    @pandareno1999 Who is asking for a gibby buff? Even in pubs and low levels he is really strong......just no one plays him because he isn't movement based

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