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Re: Bought new PC, am now unable to b-hop

well, seems it's time to learn to play especially how to use your enviroment instead of relying on an exploit that let you do something that isn't intended (there is a reason why you get slowed down when using meds/shieldcharges)

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  • sfeCt's avatar
    sfeCt
    6 years ago
    Right - but since its in the game and possible (source engine has been around forever and bhopping is a thing) I am just trying to figure out what could be causing this. If they remove it then I obviously wouldn't do it.

  • @MjNaise wrote:

    well, seems it's time to learn to play especially how to use your enviroment instead of relying on an exploit that let you do something that isn't intended (there is a reason why you get slowed down when using meds/shieldcharges)


    You are severely underestimating the developers capabilities if you think they left this manoeuvre in by accident.


  • @sfeCt wrote:
    Right - but since its in the game and possible (source engine has been around forever and bhopping is a thing) I am just trying to figure out what could be causing this. If they remove it then I obviously wouldn't do it.

    All exploits are in the game, that is why they are called exploits.  If it was not in the game then it would be called a cheat.

    This is just one of the many rules in the TOS:  

    • Use exploits, cheats, undocumented features, design errors or problems in an EA Service.

    http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/#section6

  • sfeCt's avatar
    sfeCt
    6 years ago
    Please stop replying to this thread. Respawn has never once said its an exploit so I'm not sure why you think you can.
  • napalm51's avatar
    napalm51
    6 years ago

    you have 4 options

    1- go back to the old pc

    2- buy new gear/pc

    3- use macro

    4- not bhop

    you're welcome


  • @sfeCt wrote:
    Please stop replying to this thread. Respawn has never once said its an exploit so I'm not sure why you think you can.

    The OP himself calls it an exploit, so please stop telling people to not respond.

  • cooperal1012's avatar
    cooperal1012
    6 years ago

    @unogobangbang wrote:

    @sfeCt wrote:
    Please stop replying to this thread. Respawn has never once said its an exploit so I'm not sure why you think you can.

    The OP himself calls it an exploit, so please stop telling people to not respond.


    Err dude? CTRL+F didn't show the word 'exploit' anywhere in the OP. And you're telling it to the very person who wrote that post. Are you okay? Are you sure you're in the right thread?

  • unogobangbang's avatar
    unogobangbang
    6 years ago

    @cooperal1012 wrote:

    @unogobangbang wrote:

    @sfeCt wrote:
    Please stop replying to this thread. Respawn has never once said its an exploit so I'm not sure why you think you can.

    The OP himself calls it an exploit, so please stop telling people to not respond.


    Err dude? CTRL+F didn't show the word 'exploit' anywhere in the OP. And you're telling it to the very person who wrote that post. Are you okay? Are you sure you're in the right thread?


    Yeah, that was me basically telling you that you do not control who responds on a public forum.

  • sfeCt's avatar
    sfeCt
    6 years ago
    @unogobangbang can you please stop derailing this topic. Exploits are bannable by ToS. Bunny hopping is not a bannable offense haha.

    I'm trying to figure what about having a fresh new PC is causing it not to work. Please, if you arent going to contribute to that, then stop responding here.
  • CooloutAC's avatar
    CooloutAC
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    @sfeCt wrote:
    Please stop replying to this thread. Respawn has never once said its an exploit so I'm not sure why you think you can.

    Actually the devs did publicly say heal hopping is not intended.  https://www.dexerto.com/apex-legends/should-bunny-hopping-removed-apex-legends-respawn-respond-473391

    The only time anyone bhops in apex.  is to heal.  Its heal hopping not bunny hopping.    Titanfall universe already has fast movement.  Its officially an exploit,  but one that is not easy to stop cleanly.

    At some point you have no choice but to rely on community to play honorably.   For example facit tourney didn't allow camping respawn for kills.  so heal hopping issue is what it is.  Maybe nothing they can do about it without inhibiting other aspects of the game.



  • sfeCt's avatar
    sfeCt
    6 years ago

    It’s called bunny hopping haha. And healing while bunny hopping. Never heard a single person call it heal hopping. All these people, including yourself, talking about whether or not we should be able to do it. That’s not the point of this conversation. It’s painfully obvious that those against the use of it... simply aren’t capable of doing it. 

    Im all for anything that increases the skill ceiling. This is one of them and until it’s removed (which I doubt it will be) you should get used to it. 

  • warslag's avatar
    warslag
    6 years ago

    @RichAC wrote:

    @sfeCt wrote:
    Please stop replying to this thread. Respawn has never once said its an exploit so I'm not sure why you think you can.

    Actually the devs did publicly say heal hopping is not intended.  https://www.dexerto.com/apex-legends/should-bunny-hopping-removed-apex-legends-respawn-respond-473391

    The only time anyone bhops in apex.  is to heal.  Its heal hopping not bunny hopping.    Titanfall universe already has fast movement.  Its officially an exploit,  but one that is not easy to stop cleanly.

    At some point you have no choice but to rely on community to play honorably.   For example facit tourney didn't allow camping respawn for kills.  so heal hopping issue is what it is.  Maybe nothing they can do about it without inhibiting other aspects of the game.




    I don't suppose Pathfinder's grapple was intended to be used the way it is. There's probably lots of ways players use game features in unintended ways. Wraith using her portal to send players off of cliffs is not intended. The devs must have know it would be used this way but that's not it's intended purpose.

    Or in Battlefield, sticking explosives to jeeps, seat switching in helicopters.

    It's only when players have a moan that the devs will 'fix' unintended gameplay. If nobody bothers about it or even notices then they might not fix it.


  • @warslag wrote:

    @RichAC wrote:

    @sfeCt wrote:
    Please stop replying to this thread. Respawn has never once said its an exploit so I'm not sure why you think you can.

    Actually the devs did publicly say heal hopping is not intended.  https://www.dexerto.com/apex-legends/should-bunny-hopping-removed-apex-legends-respawn-respond-473391

    The only time anyone bhops in apex.  is to heal.  Its heal hopping not bunny hopping.    Titanfall universe already has fast movement.  Its officially an exploit,  but one that is not easy to stop cleanly.

    At some point you have no choice but to rely on community to play honorably.   For example facit tourney didn't allow camping respawn for kills.  so heal hopping issue is what it is.  Maybe nothing they can do about it without inhibiting other aspects of the game.




    I don't suppose Pathfinder's grapple was intended to be used the way it is. There's probably lots of ways players use game features in unintended ways. Wraith using her portal to send players off of cliffs is not intended. The devs must have know it would be used this way but that's not it's intended purpose.

    Or in Battlefield, sticking explosives to jeeps, seat switching in helicopters.

    It's only when players have a moan that the devs will 'fix' unintended gameplay. If nobody bothers about it or even notices then they might not fix it.


    It is very simple to me, unintended gameplay is just that and needs fixing.  The problem is when people know it is unintended and the do it anyhow, hence an exploit.

  • warslag's avatar
    warslag
    6 years ago

    @unogobangbang 

    Unintended gameplay does not necessarily constitute an exploit. There's no need to fix it if it does no harm or causes distress.

    The sliding jumping heal thing is probably going to be looked at because it's simply absurd and people are irritated by it. Plus, because of high profile streamers, everyone knows about it.

    There could be lots of exploits out there that are far worse but so little known that the devs might schedule them for fixing later on.

    I don't use the sliding jumping heal thing, but it doesn't bother me either.

    🤔


  • @warslag wrote:

    @unogobangbang 

    Unintended gameplay does not necessarily constitute an exploit. There's no need to fix it if it does no harm or causes distress.


    Yes, unintended gameplay is not always an exploit but in this very specific case I believe it is.

  • sfeCt's avatar
    sfeCt
    6 years ago
    Anyway - I fixed it thanks to some help on reddit. Launch commands to unlock FPS max and refresh rate to monitor hz as well as forcenovsync. Works perfectly again.
  • CooloutAC's avatar
    CooloutAC
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    @warslag wrote:

    @unogobangbang 

    Unintended gameplay does not necessarily constitute an exploit. There's no need to fix it if it does no harm or causes distress.

    The sliding jumping heal thing is probably going to be looked at because it's simply absurd and people are irritated by it. Plus, because of high profile streamers, everyone knows about it.

    There could be lots of exploits out there that are far worse but so little known that the devs might schedule them for fixing later on.

    I don't use the sliding jumping heal thing, but it doesn't bother me either.

    🤔


    no harm or distress?  You mean as long as its a victimless crime? lmao.   There are lots of things that undermine fair play the devs can't do anything about.  That does not mean it is ok to do them.   This is an online mentality that really needs to change.  The self entitlements are due to the fact you treat the digital world different then the physical.  Nothing is perfect, nothing is victimless and there is no perfect pill to fix everything.


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