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Re: Horizon is still too effective and you know it.

@Axs5626Sxa5001 Agree, the most infuriating part for me is her footsteps, they're super quiet and her stride is much longer than the average legend. Less footsteps and a whole lot quieter 🙄

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  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    3 years ago

    I'm so glad others have noticed her lack of sound. I've brought this up many times in the past and people would disagree.

  • ive been lasered before when shes going up in her lift. how you can have dead accurate accuracy like that moving that fast doesnt make sense. if anything she should go up slower so shes easier to hit and she should have less accuracy if she decides to shoot

    also the lift lasts SO LONG. you can pop a bat at the beginning, jump off at the top and take it for another ride. should last as long as ashs ult if not shorter

  • Accuracy on the lift has been nerfed, so its not as effective as it once was.

    Nevertheless she is still too effective.

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    3 years ago

    @Axs5626Sxa5001I believe her being super strong along with the gun meta is also feeding all the controller player hate too. As you said, her no stun and special movements allow controller players to do things they cannot do normally. She makes teams inherently more aggressive, as seen in the most recent algs events where there was a lot more of that. This is due to her lift which the whole team can use often to push other teams. Then you add in a gun meta that basically made shotguns, particularly the PK, obsolete so all close up fights favor controller players more.

    Hal is a good example. Since moving to horizon he also switched to controller. When they tried to change metas he struggled big time.

  • Kyldenar's avatar
    Kyldenar
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @hayhor Ok, as I only play about once or twice a season on PS4 and not nearly enough to see what everyone is using, what IS the gun meta now?
  • 4847606's avatar
    4847606
    3 years ago

    @KyldenarDefinitely Nemesis for the rest of the season. Then season 18 is a charge rifle and longbow buff and SMG bullet fall off like the current charge rifle where it deals less damage at longer range.

  • @hayhor Yeah well said.

    I don’t know, I have played Apex consistently since month one. I have never been less excited to play because literally (and I mean this) I’m getting killed by a Horizon 8-9 times out of 10 matches. It’s literally between 80 and 100% that a 4k 20 Bomb Horizon gets the best of me during any given match. That cannot be a coincidence. The character is broken and people who main her make me cringe.
  • Axs5626Sxa5001's avatar
    Axs5626Sxa5001
    3 years ago

    I’ve played daily (about 2-3 hours a night) for the last 3 weeks (approximately 21 days) and I’ve secured 2 wins.

    I cannot— I repeat , I cannot overestimate how frequently the player killing me is a Horizon off their grav-lift. 

    I’d like to see pick rates that show Legend picks based on “MMR buckets”. The idea of a Legend having a 100% pick rate per team in certain buckets is absurd to me. It’s compounding the issue that already exists regarding strict pub MMR. For like the 6th season in a row, I’m going to end the season with a KD below 1. It’s ridiculous. 

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    3 years ago

    @KyldenarSMGs up close. In particular r99 and prowler. Absolutely no one competing uses shotguns, even mnk folks. It used to be PK had a time and eva was OP. Now no one even looks at those guns. For range, mid and long nemesis is king.