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@DoYaSeeMe wrote:Smurfing should never be banned because there's nothing technically illegal. It should be prevented and avoided, of course.
Smurfing been ruining games and made people shun the game since sbmm was made, games died from it so yes it should be bannable, not only the smurf account but the main account should get a smack. But I think the smurf term should be defined much better because not all smurfing is bad, the smurfing that pray on "the weak" should be smacked hard. I know its hard to differ but in general statistics wise it should be extremely easy to track. A hwid repeating account creation and has myriads of smurf accounts made specifically to ruin ranked low level or exploit the grace period/games you get in the start. I seen plenty of people do this, and I seen people making content making new accounts all the time. This is what is hurting the game and should be handled as its turning new players away from the game and the steady recruitment slows down fast and people give up before they actually can progress and get into the game properly.
- @DoYaSeeMe It doesn't matter if it's "illegal." It ruins the game experience for tens of thousands of players and causes the majority of beginners to just give the game up. Apex has half of the players of PUBG and dramatically less than Fortnite; those are basically its two competitors. Apex needs all of the players it can get if it's going to stay alive.
- @StelioRokos There are many things that ruin the gameplay experience, some of them are way worse than smurfing. If every bad behavior would be banned, there would be very few players left. Also, a ban is an official / legal action of prohibiting, so it 's applied only when official / legal rules are explicitly violated. I don't see any rule against making new accounts and I don't think it should be prohibited to do so, as there are a lot of legit reasons for it (accounts being stolen, switching platforms, changing rig and location / isp, allowing friends / other family members to play on your device, etc.).
- 123321gohome4 years agoRising Traveler
@StelioRokos you do realize apex is one of the top games worldwide right? Theres over 100million worldwide. PUBG had a max of 3.24 million. Do your facts this game is going nowhere for a long time. An as much as I hate it fortnite will probably never get topped it's too kid friendly.
a smurf is a person making a new acount spesifically to circumvent the matchmaking to prey on low levels and newbies. That is the very definition, and hence reportable, its even got its own little report segment on the PC version.
Making a new account for other reasons like changing platform, or otherwise legit reason, maybe even having two characters, one to play ranked solo and one to play ranked with the team for instance is legit in my eyes and not smurfing, but those characters will both be fairly high level. But those characters will not be deleted or abandoned and new ones created everytime you need fresh fooder. The hardest smurfs recreates several times a day to make sure they can keep as little resistance as possible. This is the shait that ruins the game, and yes in a huge way and way worse, idd take a toxinc mofo any day instead of a smurf, i can just mute him.
- @Zkepz Smurfs are definitely way worse than the hackers I come across.
Smurfs lead to dedicated players getting frustrated to the point of leaving the game entirely which ultimately kills any good online pvp game. @OldTreeCreeperYeah he says it right there, players that abuse the system and create new accounts to farm lower level lobbies.... that is EXACTLY what doing a Solo to masters challenge is, a loophole giving everyone permission to create smurf accounts.
@SILVERisSORRY I wasn't aware of this until recently and thought smurfing was simply having a second account.
- @DoYaSeeMe None of the reasons you listed are why people Smurf.
People smurf to intentionally get beginner or lower-skilled players to dominate them. They intentionally circumvent any sort of matchmaking system that may exist in order to feel good about stomping beginner players. This causes literally millions of would-be players to just leave the game because it makes the game completely inaccessible to anyone who isn't already amazing at FPS games.
Every other PvP game takes smurfing seriously. How can you defend it? Yes, smurfing is bannable.
(You can report them.)
But, normally, a player can't do that.
If you have enough skills, you can pass low level room very quickly, you know.
As other people said, some smurfing players were abusing system defects and they were banned.
I was absent from the last season.
So I started from Bronze Ranked.
I am not a good player but I have no prolem for passing there.
- NickBeam273 years agoSeasoned Ace@SILVERisSORRY Agreed! You can't dismiss the Solo grind still has the person farming through rookie, bronze, silver and gold. Like you said...it is literally a loophole. Why should players in these ranks get eating alive cause someone wants to go through again, and again and again. As someone mentioned here before, they know many ppl that have up to and over 30 accounts for Apex.
Say what you will, an x pred or master wiping through your low lobby on his way through does not make the outcome feel any less awful of an experience as they decimate you, de-rank you and you lose RP. Most just say, well that's ok, cause that particular person will only do that to you once, then will get placed appropriately. Yes - after they have done that to a 100 other players that don't deserve it.
Then once they move on to make the experience worse for the next ones above you....here comes along another one doing the same to you as the previous. And again and again. How long does Respawn think these ppl will take the abuse from players way beyond their skill range before they give up and quit?
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