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Re: Muzzle Flash

Gun has muzzle flash

so we should not remove it completely,  but agree sometimes is too overwhelming, we can tune with stabilzer or maybe another hopup.

Is there such thing in real life ?

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  • @asukojo 

    Military grade weapons have integrally suppressed barrels, where instead of an extension being fixed onto the barrel, suppression is worked into the upper receiver of the weapon.

    There is an integrally suppressed Ruger pistol, and integrally suppressed barrels are becoming more common outside of the military these days.

    Typically tho, fully automatic weapons tend to be natively suppressed since it's a requirement to combat the fast overheating of a firearm.

    I'd say that overall, muzzle flash is quite accurate in Apex on the guns that have most of it, r99, havoc and devotion.

    It's surprising the Wingman does not have a lot of flash tho since 50 caliber pistols lacking a barrel have a LOT of muzzle flash.

    People think they want flash reduction, untill they find out this will greatly buff r99 and they lose games even more than before.

  • @asukojo This is also. Video game and most shooters the flash is never like that, not even in pubg. Less rng is always great, and the same people killing with a R99 are already good players. People shouldn’t always respect balancing because the developers say it’s ok, especially if that form of balance isn’t skillful. Do you know what bloom is? It’s random bullet spread and most hate it. Why is it added to games? To the make long range fights less possible and effective. MF does this in an unsatisfactory way just like bloom does.
  • Meurum's avatar
    Meurum
    6 years ago

    People wish to be able to see who they’re shooting at, this is not a military shooter, cod, Titan fall, battle field, etc do not have MF like this and there’s a reason for that. And the guns in that photo were shot guns! 

  • GRiPSViGiL's avatar
    GRiPSViGiL
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    @MeurumI think there should be flash hiders along with the barrel stabilizers. That way if you prefer one bonus of less flash over less recoil you can choose. That way it will make more sense that the gold stabilizer also lessens flash.


  • @GRiPSViGiL wrote:

    @MeurumI think there should be flash hiders along with the barrel stabilizers. That way if you prefer one bonus of less flash over less recoil you can choose. That way it will make more sense that the gold stabilizer also lessens flash.


    Flash suppression and recoil reduction are both the result of the same mechanism.

    Suppressors work by giving the expanding gasses a more controlled release over a longer period of time.

    Having to choose one thing or the other contradicts the actual realities of weapons engineering.

    @Meurum bloom is natural to fully automatic firearms tho, it's more a realism than game balance. In fact, it's surpring the r99 is as accurate as it is.

    Real light ammo SMG's like the Uzi are horrifically inaccurate. An Uzi doesn't even shoot on target at a range of a few meters. It's absurd.

  • GRiPSViGiL's avatar
    GRiPSViGiL
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    @WingmannedbroSure but that isn't how this game is so I don't see why they can't be different. As it is now only the gold stabilizer lessens flash.

    I mean I definitely think some guns muzzle flash is way to crazy and hinders sight so if I was given the option I might live with some of the recoil over less flash.  Gold stabilizer are rare so more options would be cool.

  • @GRiPSViGiL 

    I agree that barrel stabilizers should simply be suppressors, and different tiers should provide flash suppression, with the gold barrel being the only military grade suppressor that suppresses flash entirely.

    Would be more accurate to the engineering side of things.

  • Jem450R's avatar
    Jem450R
    6 years ago

    @Wingmannedbro wrote:

    @GRiPSViGiL wrote:

    @MeurumI think there should be flash hiders along with the barrel stabilizers. That way if you prefer one bonus of less flash over less recoil you can choose. That way it will make more sense that the gold stabilizer also lessens flash.


    Flash suppression and recoil reduction are both the result of the same mechanism.


    Sorry gonna have to disagree... flash hider will hide flash, a muzzle brake/compensators reduce recoil... 

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