Re: Wraith Hitbox S8
@DarthValtrex if you look at the hitbox increase picture, the increase is around the entire 3d hitbox. Zoom in a bit and it obvious that it's not just the body section.
Can you point me to where you got the 20% please.
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- @OldTreeCreeper This article states that what they did to Path was 20% and that what they were looking at doing to Wraith would be similar. I don't think she is 33% bigger, 20% is what it looks like to me.
She might be in a good place now, I'm undecided it takes so much time to get enough experience against her to judge one way or the other. - @OldTreeCreeper Theyve actually stated a 15% increase I believe.
@DarthValtrex my third bigger is a best guestimate only, like your 20%. It very difficult to judge exactly.
@hayhor a link to your stated 15% would very helpful.
Edit, I've tried to find an official % but cannot.
- @OldTreeCreeper I cannot find it now but remember a dev talking about it.
@hayhor that's interesting. I wonder if he meant a 15% increase in total or a 15% increase all round ie as in the frame, which would be more, maby up to 30%. No idea what that would be in volume terms though.
- @OldTreeCreeper When the statement was made it was overall.
@hayhor was it overall lengths, area or volume do you know?
@hayhor I had an idea for us to make a direct comparison.
Using the hitbox picture supplied by respawn that's above.
I cropped the picture to the below, using the new hitbox green line as the vertical crop point, so both wraith images are the same width:
Then cropped again from that image to show the head and upper body of both for direct visual comparison:
If you are able to zoom in on these 4 headshots like I can on my phone, the difference becomes startling. Simple measurements indicate at least a 15% increase in both width and depth and also there is an increase in some heights and includes height overlaps.
If so then this is more than a 15% increase in the new hitbox.
Say a hitbox cube is 10cmx10cmx10cm= 1000cm3
Increase depth and width by 15% and for the sake of argument no change to height.
Cube is now 11.5cmx11.5cmx10cm= 1322cm3
The percentage increase in the volume is:
(322/1000)x100=32. 2%
We need a fact checker 😃
- @OldTreeCreeper Your logic is off here. Hitboxes do not work the way you are saying. If I see a wraith from the side, her width from the front doesnt mean anything to me. If I see her from the front her side increase means nothing. So it is still whatever view you have of her, not the total of some random measurements you added.
@hayhor it is the difference between the red lines which indicate the old hitbox cuboid and the green lines which indicate the new hitbox cuboid. The animation size hasn't changed. The animation view has nothing to do with the hitbox.
The measurements of the red and green lines are not random, take her chest hitbox cuboid as an example, and measure it when zoomed in, heith and width.
- @OldTreeCreeper It def is not 32% increase. Wraith did not even have half that to work with. She only had up to 15-20% wiggle room of changes. This change is very minimal and effects us wraiths none. Only ones who cry are streamers who get fried and blame the hitbox increase for their poor surroundings knowing skills. They assume im a pred im big streamer no one can stop me. Then they get stopped in their tracks and out comes the hate.
@E9ine_AC I think what you are referring to is this podcast
If you listen to it, he says they had 20% wriggle room "within" the animation for pathfinder. Within would be the core word here. Wraith's new hitbox goes "without" well outside of her animation. Pathfinders new hitbox can clearly be seen on the picture of the hitbox provided by respawn.
@E9ine_AC I'm not a streamer and get no financial reward from playing Apex. There's no hate from here....
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