RP and AP Thought
Apex is a team game with lots of plyer individuality. Emphasis is currently placed on individual skill. RP is awarded for Kills and assists and of course placement. How many times have you had a gam...
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The criteria for victory is quite clear, last team or last player standing. Getting to that point for most players is team play and yes reviving and respawning teammates in and of itself is an incentive as they normally help that goal being achieved or close enough for a positive play experience and RP.
Some players are are spot on laser shooters, movement masters and killing machines in the game, and I applaud their skill. Other players do not have those skills but have great tactical sense, map knowledge and great general awareness and anchor the team as support. All of that in and of itself should be reward enough and I do not flat out disregard the points you have made and agree with them to a certain point.
However I still believe that some sort of RP should be given for revives/respawns. Yes their might be room for exploitation and that would have to be handled if and when it arises. Lastly I honestly think that providing a greater incentive to revive/respawn downed teammates would foster team play mechanics especially with Random Trio's and would not be bad in two or three stacked trio's.
I appreciate your argumentation and even though I do not fully agree with it find it quite interesting.
@Asmodeus566 The incentive to revive/Respawn is you will have a full team and increases your chances of survival. Kills can be exploited by colluding with other team, but it isn't widespread. Revive is one of the easiest thing to exploit and will make the problem 10x worse imo.
There is no quantifiable way to measure 'tactics' or 'game awareness'. The bottom line is you still have to convert them into kills somehow. No matter how many abilities you use, dmg wins the fight. Bloodhound scan assist was one of the dumbest thing to exist.
There is no quantifiable way to measure 'tactics' or 'game awareness'. The bottom line is you still have to convert them into kills somehow. No matter how many abilities you use, dmg wins the fight. Bloodhound scan assist was one of the dumbest thing to exist.
@BaldWraithSimp Fair points. I'm not convinced that revive will make the problem 10x worse. You'll get people abuse the system no matter what you do. This is why we can't have nice things.
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I understand your arguments but still can not see why this would be so unwanted. Cheating and exploits aside, because they will happen and cheaters will be cheaters no matter what.
Yes tactics and game awareness are not quantifiable and I never suggested that they should or could be.
Now don't get me wrong here as I am only being presumptive in what the two of you are getting at. Kills and kill assists including placement should be the only measure of skill for RP points in your eye's, yes, no? really why not just go one step further and ask yourself what is the goal of the game, win the game be the champion, so with that assumption why not just award the champion squad and all other get nothing? No that does not work nor should it and would not be in the interest of the gamers playing the game or EA.
Providing a greater incentive for team play in my line of thinking is in the interest of most players and would also benefit EA as well as more players would more than likely help other players out. Thus creating just maybe a little tighter community and less toxic play and or behavior.
Really aside from the possible cheats and exploits what is there to lose? What is there to gain?
- @Asmodeus566 I only say it in terms of how easy it is to exploit. Currently farming kills to get RP requires you to get into the same game, collect mobile beacons and Respawning itself takes a lot of time while also signalling to the whole map that you are using multiple beacons. And that's a lot of time.
Farming revives is so easy compared to that. Revive, get knocked, revive get knocked and so on. Effort and time wise, it's a lot easier. You don't even need a second squad to get into your game to do any of this. Just use nades.
Maybe RP for only Respawn can be the middle ground here, I have been chased from Skyhook to Epicenter in the name of retrieving banners so I understand it can be quite stressful and time consuming to go find a safe location to Respawn, more so when enemy teams are spread out across the map.Now that sounds reasonable. I see your point with exploiting the revive and how only allowing for RP for respawning would work.
Considering that FF is turned off for weapons wouldn't it also be possible for friendly nade damage be turned off as well to negate your mentioned exploit. I am sure EA could do that. I don't know if that should be done though but well it is a possibility.
If EA ever considered my suggestion for awarding RP for revives and respawns and incorporated it into gameplay they should most definitely consider the exploitation factors you and others have voiced concern over and the suggested ways to nullify and or absolutely minimize the risk.
Thank you very much for the very interesting exchange of views and argumentation BaldWraithisHOt.
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