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3 years ago

Ruminating

The apex universe is top notch. The characters, the writing, the lore, the voice acting, high production. Where it lacks is the laggy controls, the sbmm, the loot boxes. The marketing targeting child...

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swift07

3 years ago

@reconzero you know who Shroud is, right? He does play BR's. Honestly, I agree with what and why he is saying that. There is a lot of RNG involved in BR's, which doesn't make the game truly competitive.

reconzero

Seasoned Ace

3 years ago

@swift07

If I remember right, he made his name in Counter Strike. Sure he plays battle royale, but the arena shooter mindset is a hard thing to shake.

There is more rng involved for some players than for others. Most players take rng as a given, a fixed and immutable feature of the game. And it isn't. I think the players who figure this out win more. I call that the opposite of luck.

As for the definition of "competitive," if most of the players with high win rates believe that they're just lucky then they would quickly leave this "uncompetitive" game. They don't because it isn't. It's a broader use of the word, but to my mind that makes the game more competitive, not less. Semantics.

swift07
3 years ago
@reconzero Competition is generally activities where participants compete on an even playing field, to show their own strengths. Rng is a chance that can either be an advantage or disadvantage, and there's plenty of it in BR's. You can be the best team and still lose because of bad rng.

Shroud isn't just a CS player, the guy is a legend in CS. One of, if not, the best player ever. Not just because of his gun skills, but his game IQ.
- reconzero
  Seasoned Ace
  3 years ago
  @swift07
  
  "You can be the best team and still lose because of bad rng."
  
  This is true of any specific match. But in aggregate it is not true or otherwise everyone would win exactly 5% of their matches. And we know that isn't how this game works at all. Luck is a factor, but it is hardly the only factor. There are ways to minimize luck, and the ability to do that is a skill set. Just not one that aim gods want to talk about. Which is fine. They can use the word "uncompetitive" to describe what they're not good at and that's okay. As long the rest of us can acknowledge that attitude for what it is.