Greetings Legends! Season 4 is here, with a new Battle Pass, a new Legend, a new Weapon, a Map Update and more! You can view the full patch notes here.For more details you can check out the Season 4 Map Update here, the Battle Pass contents here,and at Revenant's bio hereLet us know what you think below!

@EA_David .........that was it for Legend balancing????????????????????????????????????? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?No Mirage buff????????

One of the best updates yet, honestly!This will definitively change meta, was not expecting the Devo crate move, nor was I expecting the turbocharger to be vaulted.This is going to shake things up quite a bit, welcoming changes all around!Now I'm just gonna go surf reddit for the remainder of my afternoon, while at work, and be entertained by the playerbase pouting and crying about these changes! lololol

@EA_David Cool update. Finally, L-Star is taken out of supply drops. Devotion in supply... Dang, never expected that. And also G7 moved to AR? Ok, interesting. Hemlock single fire rate increased. Lol, our new meta is here? Perhaps. R-99 nerfed yay. No balancing for lifeline and mirage? Sad. Anyway, update about to be finished. Imma just dive in.

Thoughts as I read:Nothing for Map Update, Sentinel, Ranked, or Anniversary as I've yet to play. Will update when I get a chance with everything.Loot: Interesting change, it makes sense for sniper rifles to have their own class of ammo since before hand you'd basically spam fire sniper rifles with reckless abandon because ammo was aplenty. It's nice to see a shift into learning distances and projectile velocities, but now I wonder if the sniper rifles will get a buff to damage to greater reward those who know how to use the weapons? We'll have to see.Energy: Oh thank GOD you're giving more energy ammo. I hated hot-dropping and starting off with a Havoc, only to run out of ammo soon after. Hopefully this will make those runs where I use a Havoc for the whole match a little more forgiving. However with the removal of turbocharger, does the Havoc get automatic turbo functionality? I'll have to see. Weapons:Ironsight Update: Ha! I KNEW my shots were supposed to hit the target. Now I can get back to poking enemies 400 meters out with my ironsighted R99. Thank you Apex.G7: IMO, well deserved fire-rate nerf, it was a little too powerful. Interesting move into the AR category however, I am going to miss the 4-10x sight on it. L-STAR: Well now I can get downed by it at any stage of the game. I kinda like that. Devotion: Huge Devotion fan, and now it automatically comes with a turbocharger? Absolutely going to camp every single care package drop.Havoc: Was there horizontal recoil to the Havoc? Can't remember. Can we get a better hip-fire for it sometime soon though? Edit: Pretty controllable, really nice and easy to use, but that initial charge up will still kill you if you're not careful in picking shots. R-99: Ah yes, the noob killer is getting a slight nerf because the newer players are complaining again. Thanks for the increased mag size though, 18 rounds made me nervous.Wingman: A better early-game, and a more punishing late-game. I like it! Legends:Bloodhound: Wow that kit change is actually pretty good. I'm all for seeing Bloodhound in my lobbies again, haven't seen the poor boy since his kit broke. QoL: Holy God that ring change is HUGE. I have been silently praying for that since Season 1, and it's finally come true! Not a big fan of the Roller damage nerf. I know technically it's to ward off newer players but not punish them harshly, but one time I used it like a bomb and killed my teammate so I was kind of a big fan of how much damage it did. Granted it was an accident and I did apologize. Edit: Sentinel: Very good rifle, really nice damage, pretty decent fire-rate, nice critical hit multiplier. Odd gimmick of expending a shield battery for increased shield damage, but it's pretty cool. However IMO, if you're really trying to get the best bang for buck, skip the charge up, and aim for heads. Headshots do 130 damage to target dummies with and without charged shots, and it's always better to save a shield battery for when you need it, rather than using it to gain the charged buff and be forced to pop 4 shield cells when you take too much damage. Map: Lots of craggly bits, really liking the design. It still seems like most of the action is still concentrated around the same areas they used to but that's a pretty moot point. @Koochi-Q QoL is that when you're inside ring, when you get to the rim of the ring coming out, your screen no longer is tinted bright white until you exit the ring. It makes coming out of the ring into a fight much easier.

Huge changes!Revenant's kit looks pretty cool, cannot wait to try him out and slaughter some enemies.His ultimate looks pretty cool and exiting how it feels in-game.But it looks like he will be meta with Pathfinder for sure!The SENTINEL is a really interesting weapon design because it can consume shield batteries.I had a bad feeling about this one but I have to say I cannot wait to try it.But it will make a unique sound so I guess it's also a 3rd party magnet 😉I have fixed feelings about the sniper ammo chance.These are nice changes to create a new feeling and nerf the snipers and I'm excited to see how this will affect my playstyle as I use snipers almost every single game.F Turbocharger I will miss you my friend ☹️But I think it's a balanced move that they moved a fully kitted devotion in the Care Packages.Not sure how the havoc will feel after this change but less recoil is always nice.Will definitely try the new havoc and see how it feels in gunfights, it has been tweaked a lot last couple of months so hopefully, it's now in a good place.The general balancing of the weapons looks good.The bloodhound change is cool 5 seconds for every down is a lot of time but will not impact him that much I think but I'll take any buff as a Bloodhound main.Always nice to see a list of bug fixes and stability fixes are always appreciated🙂The Ranked Series 3 changes look great!The lost forgiveness change a bit harsh but I can understand why this is implemented.And the leaver times unchanged sounds good.Nice to see an update for the instability crashes.I will keep an eye out for any update on that. Edit after playing:Map feels so much better and I love the changes they made to it. I had a few moments of lag but it's fine.The sniper change is pretty cool and the sentinel is awesome, definitely my new favorite gun sorry longbow 😳The relevant definitely belongs in the Apex Games, he is pretty cool.Definitely worth the hype.

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81 Replies

jaokait
6 years ago
@EA_David Its been a while since ive played. Im using a 32:9 monitor, and a lot of the ui is kinda wonky on the lastest patch. I did not have this issues when playing in season 1. I can provide screenshots and video if needed.
TheFecesLord
6 years ago
@EA_David

It's still garbage for ranked. It should cost points to enter, it should be a grind to build those points back, and I would honestly extend the higher tiers to gather a little more points for each level. Remove the timer for leaving as far as non-ranked is concerned. The two should not be tied together. So lame.

It shouldn't be a penalty for leaving (time penalty) because your in game squad has his/her mic queued and they don't stop screaming.

It shouldn't be a penalty when your broken text to speech even exists in this game. And when it's used, it crashes the majority of xbox users. YES, this is being exploited by trolls. And there isn't a damn thing EA/Respawn has done about that. This happened to me quite often during season 3. And it was freaking annoying.

Logic errors up the wazoo that force you to reopen the game. But we're dashboarding, right? Please...

I've lost more points by far just dying and waiting for a hero on my team to no avail. Then grinded my way back up. I think I was diamond one three times, and got violated all the way back down to diamond 3, three times! I typically solo-queued. It's just the nature of the beast.

Somehow I abused the dashboarding? And still, forgiveness points were part of your broken system that I somehow abused? Why is none of the blame on EA/Respawn for not positively adjusting this?

Screw the rewards I EARNED. I care not about a stupd dive trail. I play the game to destroy other peoples in-game hopes and dreams.

To brand a gamer as a cheat is just plain wrong, for something you could have easily corrected. And do so - retroactively by email, waiting for the season to end, as quietly as possible. Never a pop up in game like you do for your fancy lame ads.

Keep in mind, not everyone uses twitch, twitter, or even facebook. Those players should respond to an email though, and there is no excuse for that. Or an in-game pop up with an explanation of what is going on would help.

I've honestly never dealt with the bugs of a game on this scale before, ever. But I still truly enjoyed the game.

We're into season 4 now, and the game still has a ridiculous amount of bugs. And you fail to hit the right notes when it comes to balancing the point systems of ranked.

You've branded people who do not cheat, cheaters. Now how do we retroactively get our money back for season passes, and other purchases since I now feel you cheated me?

I still love the game, but hate you!
Kratos5742
6 years ago
Please, Apex. Hear me out here. I love mirage and I have devoted a lot of time to him. His abilities just do not compete with other legend’s ones. His decoys definitely need a buff and his ult is a little underwhelming. Something like the dance party from dummies big day could improve a lot. And if Mirage had multiple decoys with different actions and less limitations it would be amazing for that to happen.
JDOGMcFUZZL
6 years ago
R99 needs a better nerf. You guys didn't even do anything with the "nerf" you gave it. You said you want to switch up the weapon balancing so people use other weapons? The R99 should literally only do 8 damage per shot. With its less than a second to dump a whole mag, hardly any recoil, and the fact that you get staggered each bullet that hits you the R99 is still way to good. It's been king pretty much since launch and you guys haven't really touched it. Even though it's been the best gun in the game forever. It either needs to only do 8 damage per shot or have its recoil increased by 100% it's literally the moat f***ing noob cannon that has plagued FPS games in the last 5 years. Idiotic you people haven't balanced it yet.
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
6 years ago
@KrakaDrak" -Buff fortified to 25% damage resist, big boys are at a massive disadvantage in firefights. They could use a little buff, I realise this will make Gibraltar more powerful, but I’m going to turn a blind eye to that for now, as I think he is a welcome change to the meta."

Are you joking? Gibi is OP in close combat as it is. If he has purple armor you have to do over 275 damage to him, that's often at a minimum 2 clips for Gibi. Mean while if you're a low profile character such as Wraith or Wattson you'll take more damage. Meaning fewer shots have to hit you. This is a horrible idea, especially for Gibi. The people in my lobbies, do not miss many shots against the low profile characters. So it really boils down to which legend fires first or/and can take the most damage.

You don't balance a game or legends by buffing others to be so OP that other legends don't stand a chance. You balance legends by making their weaknesses equal out with their strengths. Prime example, if a low-profile legend takes 5% more damage, then they should be 5% harder to hit. If a legend has a 25% damage reduction buff, then they should take 25% more bullets.
lnxtvv
6 years ago
@EA_David IMPROVE SERVER STABILITY
always this icon....when make a good patch
Anonymous
6 years ago
Approved
What made them BUFF the Havoc and at the same time NERF the R99? Why are they forcing people to play with energy weapons while nerfing favourites? They nerfed the wingman and spitfire out of the game while continuosly making the energy weapons stronger?
lnxtvv
6 years ago
what is wrong oin this game?
me and enemy have blue shield but i dead and enemy no?
Problem with calculator?
Ah!cheaters not exists.
No developers write why?
Kimsey02
Rising Hotshot
6 years ago
Theres an important line missing in the patch notes sadly.
"Removed SBMM because of player feedback"
Iliketacos8686
New Rookie
6 years ago
I'm done guys there never gonna evolve the game let's change the map an add a new character every season but keep everything else the same I'm moving on bout to go chakotay out anthem but probably just start playing call of duty at least they try to keep you interested in playing