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RelentlessShiba's avatar
4 years ago

SBMM Makes Zero Sense

Ok, I need some help here.  I have a friend who is awful at the game.  We played 25 games last night and he had a total of 150 damage and 1 kill through 25 games.  Game after game when I would go down after downing one and putting 100-180 damage on the second guy, I would watch his screen and he would completely miss or couldnt find them (even though he is bloodhound.  Yet over and over we are put into lobbies with apex predators who have 15k kills or more and 500 wins or more a season.  I am not that great myself.  I get about 80 wins and 1200 kills a season so not even close to these guys.  Then if I play by myself I am in the same lobbies getting wrecked and he is in lobbies where he is getting 8 kills and 2000 damage.  He said the guys in his lobby dont even run, climb, or anything.  They just stand there and shoot and he still doesnt win that often.  Thats how bad he is.  How is this even fair or fun?  Its not.  Its horrible.  He is essentially playing bots and Im in predator lobbies.  I dont get it.  Its infuriating that he can go 20 games and get 0 damage when we play together and they drop him in easy lobbies and then they thrust me into predator lobbies.  If we play together shouldnt it at least meet in the middle.  Also, why the heck am I in predator lobbies to begin with.   

Edit:  Thanks to the people that understand that it doesnt make sense to have super low skilled players that are on my team in predator lobbies or myself, when I am not even close.  To those who said practice more, you are missing the point.  I have two kids and full time job.  I dont get to play much so I dont have time to practice in the firing range.  I simply want to play in a lobby with my friends where we have a fair chance of at least killing a few squads.  Instead when I play with my friends we get wiped.  We all have kids and only a few hours to play a week and it is not fun to get wrecked when we do play.  As for when I play by myself it still puts me in harder lobbies and I dont know why, while my one buddy plays bots because he is bad.  Doesnt make sense.

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  • @RelentlessShiba queuing in a pre-made makes SBMM more aggressive. You get harder matches because you're doing what the Apex devs want you to do, AKA, queue in squads with friends. Why is this? Beats me. SBMM just caters to the lowest skill casual players, and before it was publicly introduced in S3, any threads that were for SBMM always started with, "I play casually, it's not fair I'm getting stomped on! But I also reveal unintentionally that I have 0 time / effort / motivation to actually be good at the game, I just want the devs to feed me easy matches because its not fair uwu." 

    High skill players will only play against high skill players, so every match is basically a tournament for them. Average skill players get flip flopped between too easy matches, and way too difficult ones. Low skill players for the most part get coddled by SBMM, but then it'll also auto-fill them into average / high skill games because...reasons? 

    A lot of people have expressed your sentiments regarding SBMM, it's not fun for people, it's makes it so that high skill players can't play with your friends, purposely filling you into lobbies that you're clearly not prepared for. But of course, Respawn doesn't care. Regardless of how many people speak out about it, casual, pro, streamer, etc. etc. it's here to stay. Which blows because you'd think that a game dev that wants to create something that'll last for a long time, would listen to what a significant majority of their player-base wants. You ever notice that no one has good things to say about it, except for the people who're coddled by it? A majority of whatever pros we have left hate it, content creators hate it, a lot of average skill players hate it, guess who doesn't? 

    My opinion of SBMM hasn't changed in 5 seasons now. It is the participation medal of online matchmaking. It is the equivalent of me telling you, I'm going to go and fist-fight a bear, but I'm not going to do any training at all. No learning martial arts, no weight training, nothing. I go off, I get mauled within an inch of my life, I get to the hospital and I say to you, "It's not fair that I almost died!"

  • @RelentlessShiba Premade affect on sbmm is pretty tough. I've said this many times. It is why I laugh at solos that whine about having one or two premades in their lobbies.
  • JonasDumac's avatar
    JonasDumac
    4 years ago

    I really hate it man. Im gettin constantly paired with 2 noobs almost every match i play. And im very very tired. Im not a predator, i can sometimes beat a full trio by myself but not always and the game must think i can lead 2 completely bots to victory every match i play.

    Very tired of playing with guys who get downed in the first fight we find with 30 damage each.

  • @pastaclown

    The worst part is that people think that it’s “fair”, while totally missing the point that the game changes when you drop an entire curated group of high skilled players into the same lobby. It’s pure stress. This is fun for ranked but not every game.

    “Fair”. You know what’s technically the most “fair”? Putting people into random lobbies after a certain experience level is reached. Want to win more consistently? Practice.

  • pastaclown's avatar
    pastaclown
    4 years ago

    @Axs5626Sxa5001 Pretty much. I have sympathy for people who just have 0 time to practice because of outside responsibilities, but none for people who simply just don't practice and cry wolf. 

  • I just want to say that I’m currently in bronze and everyone I’m fighting against is gold rank... I thought they said people will only fight against others with the same rank 😕

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