You know Seer will keep wrecking Apex games unless he is entirely reworked, no nerf of his current abilities will ever be enough. And that will be months in the making if it ever happens at all.probably worst season ever here: worst character, bad map change, and awful charms. The damage is done out of the gate and I don’t see the season improving. Every ranked game champion team I’ve seen has a Seer in it. How did developers become so out of touch?

@KelRiever I wonder what the mindset was when they were making Seer."Hmm you guys know how people are complaining about Bloodhound scan? Why not make a legend that does the same thing but more?!""My god you're a genius!"

Seer is bad and won’t be fixed in time

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hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@KelRiever It will not take many months. Things that are OP in pubs and ranked are even worse for ALGS and that starts up again in september. They will need to react fast with changes or else the ALGS will be a joke. Imagine 14 teams in the 2nd to last circle all tacticaling each other. 🤣
HogynDrwg
5 years ago
Travis Nordin, the designer behind Seer, admitted the Legend has launched with more power than intended in Apex Legends. So, they’re giving him a tune-up in an “upcoming patch” in potentially days, not weeks until the mid-season update.
https://www.dexerto.com/apex-legends/seer-nerfs-apex-legends-season-10-meta-1626401/?amp
Daze623
5 years ago
@KelRiever I wonder what the mindset was when they were making Seer.
"Hmm you guys know how people are complaining about Bloodhound scan? Why not make a legend that does the same thing but more?!"
"My god you're a genius!"
Axs5626Sxa5001
5 years ago
@hayhor I want things to be fixed because I want us all to enjoy ourselves.

But a small (and sour) part of me wants to see how far EA/Respawn can take the bad decisions before people genuinely say “ok enough is enough”. This current Seer in an ALGS tournament would be ridiculous, and would result in a LOT of outrage. I don’t want this to happen but I feel like maybe it needs to.

I want the devs to think really hard before releasing a Legend, and I want them to reconsider their whole “launching a legend super strong” mentality.
E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
To be fair here everyone says this about every new legend. Its OP because people have yet to learn how to counter him. 1 being his ult can be destroyed. 2 being his Q may be able to track people but honestly if your sound is good you will hear what he can ping. The tactical it self takes skill as a lot of times you can throw it and it wont hit anyone I have had it happen quite a few times. He is a very technical legend to properly be played. But when Horizon launched everyone complained she was OP its OP because people have not adapted. It effects my game play none to play against this legend.
Axs5626Sxa5001
5 years ago
@E9ine_AC

I don’t think this is a matter of adaptation. I’m ok with having to adapt to new metas.

The issue is: should Apex become a game where there are numerous wallhacks every single match. Perhaps it’s a matter of preference— I don’t want games to devolve into this. I (and others) will gladly go play other shooters.
KelRiever
5 years ago
You're not completely wrong E9, but I think this is an exception. And, the player base isn't always incorrect. Horizon on launch was too OP, I think she's fine now. Fuse got complaints on launch and now (correctly) he's buffed. Valk is probably more of a game changer than that she's too OP; with her added and Horizon, it makes other great characters too weak who now need a buff (and badly, too)...so that isn't about that Valk is OP, more that other characters now need help since they changed the game.
But Wall Hack is a problematic ability in any game. Bloodhound had already been being complained about once he got the ability to 'spam' his scan. Still, he was just one character. Seer is way beyond. I think this is pretty dead on that he's OP here, despite that, sure, usually people complain about all characters on launch. I don't think when you see how teams are set up that this is just the regular bout of complaints anymore.
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@E9ine_AC Yes but most of us know how to weed out the every season whiners and what is legit. And this is legit.
CCbathwater
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I don't even care about wall hacks. Scan me or don't scan me, I'll just go kill you anyway. Seer can just do too much, that's my issue. Gibby can do too much, but Seer does like twice as much as him. You shouldn't have 5-6 abilities in one tactical. And if you do, the cooldown should be like 2.5-3 minutes.
soccerking122
5 years ago
@Daze623 He literally power creeps crypto and bloodhound so hard it's not even funny.