so who's bright idea was the dropship?

I remember once in a while you would drop information pieces... Where is the hard data people want this back? because I have talked to all friends, random people every time i get into a match and no ...

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reconzero

Seasoned Ace

21 days ago

I get having strong feelings one way or the other, but I'm very surprised at how blind a lot of people are to the many ways it was a bad idea in principle (even if they liked it in practice). I'm also surprised that jump masters were good enough for 26 seasons of ranked play, but now suddenly I'm reading all about how "unplayable" ranked is without fixed drops. It smacks of melodrama. And the other thing I'm a little surprised about is that I haven't heard one single "pro-preset drop" player produce any statistics that showed he was hard stuck platinum 4 for 26 seasons with jump masters, but made it to diamond 2 last season. Show me that it produced tangible gains, not just a different vibe, and I might be a little more sympathetic. Maybe. Maybe not.

eldercitizen
New Ace
21 days ago
PSA: Recon's favorite mode is Bot Royale.
He does not care about competitive Apex. Go review his posts.
Stop trolling and being inconsiderate Recon. Especially when the seasonal update caters to your side. That's not fair.
You want to convince comp players that the POI Draft is bad when it wasn't our ideal. The devs and pro community came together on this feature because it improves competitive integrity. So if the POI Draft is so bad then why is it the nucleus of the ALGS. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
- reconzero
  Seasoned Ace
  21 days ago
  I do love bot royale. Owned.
  I'm not trolling. See previous post. Yes, I'm being a little harsh here and there. But I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm laying out why I think fixed drops were bad in principle. And I have yet to hear anyone explain to me why ALGS adopted the feature in the first place, except one guy a few weeks ago who said something along the lines that, in pro play there's too much at stake to risk being crashed by another squad on drop. Obviously, me being me, I disagreed. Not with the truth of the answer, just with the premise behind it. Nevertheless, it was an answer. And I appreciated it.
  And I will still say that what makes for "improved competitive integrity" is very much up for debate. That's why this subject is worth talking about. That's why no one who advocates for fixed drops should just let this all go. Sadly/thankfully the ultimate decision isn't up to you or me, but what we have to say about it here on these pages does get seen. That's why I put my thoughts out there. And I will cheer on anyone else who has an opinion and something to say about it, whether they agree with me or not. Obviously for me it's more helpful if people explain the whys and wherefores of their thinking, if they're willing, but either way: opinions should be heard.
  - eldercitizen
    New Ace
    21 days ago
    Recon... You know we debated this last year already. EA Mako was apart of that discussion.
    I'm not discussing the benefits of dropzones anymore. We've already played Ranked with both setups. The verdict is in. You all are choosing the toxic path. Plain and simple.
    What you super casual players need to understand is that EVERYONE wants to enjoy free-will. We all want to drop hot and slay. The difference between super casuals vs casual competitive players is that casual comp players want structure. It's not that we're against free-will. We're against a system that doesn't produce "competitive results" for a ranked mode. Your side doesn't give a crap about competitive results. Your side just cries foul because y'all feel like your right to be "uncooperative" is being taken away. So the real question is, "Why are y'all so adamant about sabotaging Ranked?". To feed your overwhelming and narcissistic egos, that's most likely why.
    Some comp players want dropzones in Pubs and I'm against that. Let pubs be pubs and let ranked be ranked. What's wrong with that? Why does every game mode need to be the same?
    I'm all about diversity. Period.