Stopping cheating by simply tracking Stats?
So this game on PC has insane problem with cheating right now. And basically it can't be stopped because they can't detect the difference between player input to adjust for things like recoil/aim a...
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@Metr🤭din If it was that simple they would be doing it. Simply put there is more to it. If you have a program that detects headshots, you then have someone get lucky and land a bunch of headshots, they get wrongfully banned. Now the TOS team has to deal with reviewing that persons account and unban them.
Some of the very high skill players aim for nothing but headshots. They are extremely good at as well. I've bumped into top 100 preds in matches, they land a ton of headshots, it's really insane. Some of them I have heard of and I can tell you they do not cheat. They just have really good aim, really good recoil control and are really good at the game. If they did not have the top 100 pred badges I would assume they were cheaters at the death report. But when I spectate them it's clear they are high skill players. Their movement, their play, the way they rotate, everything is top notch.
@DarthValtrex I call BS on your claim. You can't tell if people don't cheat!
Stats are a great way to identify cheaters.
Tell me AI and machine learning cannot be leveraged to analyze and combat the problem? They could absolutely do testing with Pro's and compare against cheat programs in controlled environments to get good data. The cost of doing is probably the deterrent.
You can't play against similar skill player pools and maintain the gaudy stats and high headshot percentage cheats will register. Most competitive games match with some kind of MMR so the skill rises past the cannon fodder groups. Why do you think cheats can be tuned to land less HSs? Because stats were being used to ban people on good clan run servers for a lot of different games!
Stats are a great way to identify cheaters.
Tell me AI and machine learning cannot be leveraged to analyze and combat the problem? They could absolutely do testing with Pro's and compare against cheat programs in controlled environments to get good data. The cost of doing is probably the deterrent.
You can't play against similar skill player pools and maintain the gaudy stats and high headshot percentage cheats will register. Most competitive games match with some kind of MMR so the skill rises past the cannon fodder groups. Why do you think cheats can be tuned to land less HSs? Because stats were being used to ban people on good clan run servers for a lot of different games!
Sure and they are working on AI to combat cheating. Most gaming companies are investing a ton of resources into it. Putting an end to cheating would be a golden goose for a gaming company, especially if it's something they can get intellectual property protections on. Every FPS game on the market is plagued with cheating. If a gaming company could provide an FPS game that had an anti cheat system that was let's say 95 or even just 90% effective, they could dominate the FPS market. It would be worth tens of billions if not hundreds of billions of dollars.
Unless the cheating is really egregious, it can be hard to detect. There are forum members here who have KD's above 8 and they do not cheat. I played a few rounds with an old forum member who had a KD above 7. I have a BFV friend, I used to play BFV with him almost daily when I was into it. He's one of the top BFV players in the world for console. He uses a standard controller, he just has crazy skill. Just to give an idea, this guy used to be a professional baseball player.. He has reactions time most people simply do not have. His stats in game are just unbelievable. Every lobby we would go into, he would get endless accusations of cheating.
Just to give an idea what I'm talking about.. It takes .4 seconds for a fastball to go from the pitchers hand to catchers glove. In that .4 seconds he can judge how fast the ball is traveling, the direction of the ball and still make contact with most of the pitches thrown. Keep in mind it takes a human .3-.4 seconds to blink.
@BaldWraithSimp I have dealt with the cheaters in PC lobbies I frequently play with forum members who are on PC. So I completely understand the gripe.. I want it fixed just as much as you do.
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