The nerf this, buff that threads..

You really have to keep in mind that if they nerf something to the point that it's average or below average. Then other guns will simply take the place as being the "OP" gun of choice. For example if they nerf the R-99 to make it really only a CQC weapon, the prowler will likely take the top spot as the preferred gun, with the R-301/Flatline being fairly popular as well.

The same can be said with legends.. I really feel like nerfs are only necessary when things become so OP that it's just not even fair/close. Prime example would be when the PK was so OP you could dominate a lobby with rocking 2 PK. It clearly required a nerf because at the time the PK was so OP that it would allow even bad players to squad wipe really good squads.

That said could somethings use adjustment in the game? Yes I think so.. But no matter what the devs do, certain guns are going to have an edge in some way shape or form. Those guns are going to end up as the most popular.

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16 Replies

iBlockHead
6 years ago
@DarthValtrex Another example would be that dang Charge Rifle that pretty much allowed you to wipe a team from across the map.

But yes nerf and buffs need a lot of consideration and ya gotta think of all the factors, what'll change and all that fun stuff.
MandatoryIDtag
6 years ago
BUFF MIRAGE.
:3
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
6 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag Might as well give him 55% damage reduction. 😂
1ronKeys
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
@DarthValtrex I think the issue is you get people who for example have maybe one weapon they love and use it at a disadvantaged situation and get upset that another weapon is toasting them.

I think they have maybe a poor interpretation of range and what distances weapons should excel at.
hayhor
Hero
6 years ago
@1ronKeys Agreed. I think the weapons are very balanced and like using many of them.
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
6 years ago
@1ronKeys Agreed.. That's not to say you can't make some weapons work in ranges they were not intended for. I do it all the time when I come across lower skilled players. I'll pull out my longbow and use it in CQC against them.

One thing I have noticed, Pathfinders seem to love running duel CQC load outs. I think they do this because of the grapple. It's really easy for them to close the gap and make almost every fight they get into a CQC engagement. I actually target the pathfinders first now. Sooner they are out of the fight the better.

I'm on the fence about the R-99 needing a nerf. I have been melted by it at range by highly skilled players. I had a G7 or R-301 and should have had the advantage with the distance involved. But the top players have become so adept at recoil control, that they can fire the R-99 as though it has no recoil. Thus using it at ranges that the R-99 should be ineffective. But does that mean the gun needs a nerf? I'm not so sure, I'm fairly confident they still would have won the fight no matter what gun they had.
xx_Dante2k_xx
6 years ago
@DarthValtrex Personally I think If they upped the damage of the Alternator and made it more competitive with the R99 and Prowler than it would add a bit more variation to the SMG class.
Jinnobi
6 years ago
@DarthValtrex wrote:
You really have to keep in mind that if they nerf something to the point that it's average or below average. Then other guns will simply take the place as being the "OP" gun of choice. For example if they nerf the R-99 to make it really only a CQC weapon, the prowler will likely take the top spot as the preferred gun, with the R-301/Flatline being fairly popular as well.

The Prowler is already better than the R99 full upgrades vs full upgrades. Just don't tell the "pros," they'll figure it out eventually.
MandatoryIDtag
6 years ago
@DarthValtrex That would be lovely, maybe you should go for drews job lmao.
In all seriousness though i'd just be happy with better decoy AI. 😛
Koochi-Q
6 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag He’s got a successful business with happy customers. You think he’d go from that to being called an arse, lazy person or scum on the daily for something he has no control over?!

Hmmm I don’t know the guy so lets ask him if he’s a masochist: “ey @DarthValtrex, do you want to get married?” XD