The official Matchmaking blog post

@Airish85

What bucket are you in? I’m not sure, man.

Rather than judging a lobby based on the presence of one opponent, I typically have to see divetrails and I have to look at boxes to see badges.

The top bucket lobbies are a majority of 4k, 20bomb, diamond to pred players. Playing with a friend will instantly increase the likelihood that you end up in this lobby. I think the only people who aren’t 4k 20bomb players in my lobbies are the (average skilled) premades that did well in their last game. It’s a terrible product of the algorithm.

I swear to you though, under-average to average pub lobbies 100% exist. I access these lobbies consistently on my intentionally weaker accounts. These lobbies often have absolutely no divetrails. And upon inspection of boxes, you very rarely see 4k 20bomb badges.

I urge you to not look at your KD as a “true measure” of success. The algorithm is also looking at your placement. And I have a hunch that accuracy might even play into MMR; I will be testing this in the future.

My point is, their algorithm is probably assessing you as higher than you assess yourself. I encourage you to make some more accounts and continue to run tests.

Wacky MM. But despite the numbers it felt more even than it looks. The enemies weren't bad. Their team was just more balanced. Ours were not. For once I had an actual S-tier teammate who did stuff though. It is a weird way to run a sbmm system. Balance one team, then put people from extremely different "buckets" on the other team. 🤔

The current bucket system described in the blog post does not work & I'm not sure it is even used for LTM's.

I am getting so sick of being killed instantaneously over & over again.  The Finals looks like it will be pretty decent and I really need something to break up the horrific matchmaking runs in Apex.

I used to enjoy Apex. Now I can barely get a kill. The new MM is worse.

@Axs5626Sxa5001 

" I encourage you to make some more accounts and continue to run tests."

This is what is probably the biggest issue why the MM isnt working. Smurfing is so casual and normal thing that you can just wing it like that. Like whatever just run some "tests" with a new account against some beginners or below average players because everyone else is already doing it. I already wrote that these streamer pros are killing the whole point of ranked system by making dozens of account so they can showcase how awesome they are against some lower level players. "Watch me drop 20 bomb in ranked lands in youtube tomorrow. It only took me a week because the bronze was so cluttered with other smurfs like me so I had to make 2 new accounts to get the youtube video made."

Getting constantly stomped and wanting to do good in a game that is supposed to be fun leads to the cheating problem being so common in non competitive gaming. 

Exploit is real man. Even if you arent using it for personal gains (I only use it for shooting range trust me bro 😉), everyone else is. 

I have one account and even with that I have issue of remembering my login credentials. Couldnt imagine two 🧙

@Airish85

Well you and I are in agreement that its far too easy to create a new account. While I don’t think smurfing is as bad as outright cheating, it still sucks.

To be clear, literally all of my accounts are created with the intention of doing specific things to help me develop an understanding of the MM guidelines. This desire to understand the matchmaking wasn’t a result of me being an under-average and wanting to win more than average, it came from being a higher level player stuck consistently losing to the top top players. I guess I just felt like I was against the idea of “everyone should be losing and winning at similar rates, regardless of skill”— which is what tight matchmaking aims to achieve. And I am also against the idea of people being stuck at the bottom of a matchmaking bucket. A player who is “more skilled” than 92% of a playerbase shouldn’t lose more overall than people below them. This topic has always been of interest to me.

But you creating a new account may be a way to alleviate some of the issues you’re facing. The majority of people in your lobby are Masters and Preds right? The silly algorithm has likely flagged you for whatever reason and you’re in that “less-forgiveness” group of accounts that I spoke about in an earlier post. Make a new account is a horrible solution to the matchmaking system, but it may be a solution for you nonetheless.

Matchmaking changes?  Anyone...anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?

C'mon, Respawn.  WTAH are you doing?

Matches the last few days have been absolutely horrible.  Yesterday, I got melted instantaneously 3 out of 4 matches.  Then I had a match where I got hard carried to a W by a guy I had no business being in the same lobby with.  He had 10 kills and about 2,500 damage in a lobby where I got my head shot off every time I peaked even a little and aped by 3 stacks repeatedly.

"Okay. So lets draw some cool graphs to a long blog post about how we have been testing "matchmaking changes". We will of course say something oblivious like "everyone gets more kills" to get the playerbase active again. Get some returning players who had already given up on Apex. We make some promises how things are going to change. It will probably take them about a month or two to notice how nothing actually changed and then these returning players quit and system is left with only too big skill level separates. So what we are gonna do now is try to keep those try hards so we put these super sweats in the same pubs team to keep them happy. Noobs and losers will of course be put randomly to other teams in that lobby. Now you ask how are we going to keep those below average players. Well somebody has to play the mixtape so it doesnt end up like arenas. So after they get grinded to shreds they will go play some mixtape where we will put them on a team with 12v6 advantage. This win will certainly make their day and have them coming again tomorrow."  

Has anyone actually seen any code or datamining stuff on this so called matchmaking update??