Tickrate Stuff
I think it's kind of safe to say that the tickrate for Apex is around 60Hz. Clients send their updates 60 times per second, while servers send game data up to 60 times per second. "Wait, but everyo...
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@DoYaSeeMeThat's why i suggested in my thread to remove them (think i just put flyers and prowlers but deathboxes too if that's the case) as it doesn't really enhance the experience and it's an unnecessary drain on server resources when performance is already lacking.
The logic applied in improving performance is the same as waiting for 8 seasons for them to balance wraith and change her hitbox when anyone could have told them that's where the problem is. Then they release Horizon.. 😛
@apostolateofDOOMI'm totally against butchering the game for the sake of esport level of performance. The vast majority of players don't care about that or don't have devices powerful enough to support it anyway. I would prefer them to keep experimenting stuff rather than prioritizing esports, which implies a lot of rigidity.
Respawn didn't "wait" for 8 seasons to nerf Wraith properly, they just had more important priorities and goals to achieve that go way back, well beyond the launch of Apex. Also, fiddling with a legend's hitbox after players have already put thousands of hours in mastering that legend is pretty dangerous, so it's understandable why they tried to avoid it for so long.
- @DoYaSeeMe You make it sound like they would ruin the game by improving performance which isn't necessarily the case when the number one complaint since launch from mainly PC players but also consoles too, excluding audio, is the servers (or inconsistency of performance) or whatever is hindering it backend that's beyond our control. Also as the e sport side is growing with more teams joining and competitions with larger audiences with the advertising, plus extra revenue that brings then i think they should focus more (not completely) on that as it will have a positive knock on effect for everyone else if the game runs smoother. It's a balancing act with sacrifices, sure, but there's more than enough that will benefit from those improvements including content creators that promote the game that brings in new players which Respawn like to cater for.
It clearly was one of their goals when they were nerfing her abilities several times then completely reworking them, removing naruto run and whatever else they did every single season only to address the obvious problem in the end anyway.- @apostolateofDOOM So the game isn't "ruined" by the reduction of gas & smoke particles then? Or by the drop in audio quality that happened a while ago? Or by the removal of the train from World's Edge? Ok, let's cut deathboxes, flyers, prowlers, doors, tridents. Probably not enough to hit 60Hz for snapshot rate, let's also make weapons hitscan. But true eSports are now at 128Hz, let's also cut out some abilities, remove loot and drop people with full loadout, remove a ton of stuff (hitboxes) from the maps, make them smaller.. Chop chop chop. Sounds like butchering to me.
It is cool that eSports are growing, but that doesn't mean that everyone should mindlessly jump on the bandwagon. It comes with rigidity, hindering creativity and fun that are very often associated with shakes of meta, unbalance and randomness.
How would you know whether they've tested the hitbox increase on Wraith 7 seasons ago or not? I'm pretty sure she would still be "OP" in her release form with solely the hitbox increase nerf applied. Also, it may very well be the placebo effect of this nerf making players think that she's OK now, that Respawn "listened" and their suggestion "finally" got implemented.@DoYaSeeMe The gas and particle changes ruin the game to accommodate inferior hardware when the game barely ran properly on last gen consoles so Respawn with all their ''experience'' but more importantly thirst for more profit decided to chop it for Switch and throw them into the same matches with console and PC too. Another one size fits all approach as with everything else. It's also this thirst for profit that they don't increase the server costs and give us improvements. Chopping the game to keep their server expenditure the same to make those improvements would be a choice, not a necessity as many clients could take the increased rate just as the servers can provide them with an increased cost.
Most users have better hardware and internet connections compared to 5 years ago.
Money is what it ultimately boils down to and evaluating cost vs benefits, is it sought after enough to warrant the changes, can we make more cost effective changes elsewhere and whatever other business considerations.
FPS games should be played at 60 fps standard over a decade ago with vast improvements in both user and server hardware since then. Why should they dumb the game down so a few can play a FPS at 30fps? Likely some of the sound and other issues are also related to lower spec platforms as a lot of the changes appear to be CPU, GPU or RAM cuts rather than server resources. You say that most won't be able to make the most of these changes but on PC playing FPS @ 60 is the bare minimum, not optimal so i imagine a lot of them would benefit and the same with next gen consoles.
Who knows. It wouldn't be the first time and a bit of a pattern now of they said they would or wouldn't do something that ends up not being the case with ''provide a quality experience'' or ''not milking our players'' or ''we fixed audio'' or ''we fixed rank'' just to name a few off the top of my head.
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Agreed on the Wraith change. While it was the "right" thing to do, it was at the beginning. At season 8 it only feels like harassing Wraith mains.
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