Unpopular Opinion
If someone is new to Apex and learning basic fight skills such as aim, movement, position or any other factor i left out I hear all the time "PUSH AS MANY FIGHTS AS YOU CAN". HisWattson made a video ...
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On the one hand, there's some truth to this, but...
I've noticed how poorly SBMM works in this game, using pubs as an example.
In the same lobby, matchmaking placing people who are desperately trying to get a good spot by avoiding fights. This lands them in very sweaty lobbies (often high-ranked, but with low damage and few kills).
And then I hit a wall, because ultimately, these people are unable to engage with other people (too much skill difference).
So if you're constantly avoiding fights, but you get a good spot or somehow win, Apex thinks you're good enough to play with the masters. Is that good? It depends on what you like.
Of course, we all know that SBMM is completely broken in Apex. In one lobby, I can have people with three pred badges on their banner, and then I'll meet someone who plays like a typical bronze.
Very good observations. The problem with "skill-based matchmaking" in a battle royale game is that battle royale involves so many different skill sets, but the game is assessing skill with just a handful of basic metrics that it thinks tell the whole story. When, sadly, they don't even come close. That's not the only way people end up in the wrong lobbies, but it's a big part of it. And what Respawn doesn't mess up with their grossly over-simplified skill assessment, other players will ruin with their secondaries. We're all doomed.
We can discuss endlessly about SBMM or EBMM or how those systems work - we will never know, that is like most guarded secret in the industry :)
What matters for me as a player when we talk about SBMM = goal is not to just casually play but have some challenge, competitive spirit, goal to win in close enough (skill wise) lobby that makes me ADJUST / IMPROVE.
My motivation totally drops in both cases:
a) when I do like 10 kills without much effort
b) when I get stomped by someone who has 10+ kills and just running the lobby
I think if matchmaking would work that would create less stress for players as they would know that everyone in the lobby is about their skill level (combination of brain and raw mechanics) -> that would imo lead to higher motivation levels to engage in fights at the same time respect opponents and not just W into them.
At higher ranks it would create what most dread and call "ALGS like playstyle" = you rotate to the best spot in first <5 min and defend it till you die or till the end zone 10+ min later. But in lower ranks I would assume situation would be totally different and people would still kinda take risks and fight a lot just vs similarly skilled players.
Still I think the issues is more on the side of the community:
- drunk or stoned casuals
- trolls
- smurfs
- hackers
- system abusers (dropping games to get into easier lobbies -> stomp -> repeat)
- people who have 0 intention on teamworking
- inability to communicate with other humans
- hotdrop -> die -> disconnect -> repeat 1000000000 times -> die in real life from old age :D
How I know that? We all have had that one game where randoms just magically do use mics, are on the same level and want to win -> in most cases especially pubs that yields very nice games, quite often ending in winning with at least average level of KP as well (not by camping). For me that is a very clear sign that even pubs if players as intended can be and would be more fun experience UNLESS community contained 90% of above mentioned sub-optimal humans.
p.s. vVv_Bjoergen_vVv - stop paying attention to badges and mentioning them: badges have never basically shown anything much especially for the past 20 seasons or so. All the boosting, acquiring them via bot lobbies and random pub events, account trading etc. made them totally worthless. Add to that hacking (your combo of some small ego boy getting multi-Pred account + hacks = acting in game like he god of the game) ... and badges really make no sense. Visual decoration at best, skill rating = totally not.
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