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Valk has high pickrates among all players.
- CCbathwater4 years agoSeasoned Ace
Valk's passive needs to be her tactical. How can flying around constantly be a passive? Again, for comparison, let me remind you that Lifeline was not allowed to have a tiny shield for her passive... but other legends, holy ****! Every time I shoot at a Valk, she insta flies and fire missiles straight at me. Hello? It's even dumber than Gibby at this point.
- 4 years ago
I agree lifeline needs a half shield or something right now but her original shield was not small 😉, I feel she lost her omph when they removed it, but the shield you got originally was op as hekk, way more then valk and gibby put together. You could just let a guy keep dying in front of you and you was immortal, it was insane. But yes if you got a res shield that is half size so you had to crouch and look down not to get hit it would perhaps be cool still. Actually just removing the res-cooldown would make her much more powerful again and probably up to 8%ish pickrates again.
When it comes to valks tactical, I cant remember the last time I was hit by it - her pickrate is also dropping still (just checkapexlegendstatus if you see masters/preds shes down to #6 for instance while still at #4 for bronze rank), I do think next split she might get a bit more popular again since her ultimate is a bit more usable there, but on stormpoint when that one comes she will for sure be back to her old glorious pickrates again.
Valks tactical was insanely powerful in the right hands pre animation cancel fix, because you could fly in stun, rotate, anim cancel and one-clip from the air before the other person could turn around in the slow. You cant do that any more, its been patched. Now the tactical is more of a suppress for rotation because people dont want to get caught in the slow, or scare for people who is scared of it.
At higher matchmaking when you play valk you dont fly that much because you get beamed in the air, and you get insta-pushed because it makes a lot of noise, its extremely efficient in low lobbies though. Currently what she is good at is being elusive in fights, so using her bursts to get away to pop a cell, but for hands on attack you need to play her as other legends, she is good as a flanker since she can reposition very fast in a lazily like manner while exploiting the less then optimal sound in Apex (however if people got proper headsets they know where she is), revenant is arguably better at this because his insane silentmode climbing ability.
In general a lot of Apexes issues that people are complaining about would go away if they fix sound, because some of the legends are balanced around this, how noisy they are. Revenant would get a proper buff if they fixed this for instance. I would like to see a change to sound where it gets visual. For instance if people make sound that is ment to be heard it would pop an aprox circle on the minimap with varying intensity after how loud much like the care packages to give an aprox idea where the sound comes from. This would help people with crappy sound systems and that odd sound drop you get once in a while in the game that kills you. This would also balance out most complaints about Valkyrie and other noisy legends that feels stupid powerful right now because people cant really spot them. It would also give a buff to revenant because he would get the proper stealth treatment he is supposed to have but fails at atm.
- CCbathwater4 years agoSeasoned Ace@Zkepz Valk's issue has nothing to do with sound. She's got (near) perma flying as a passive, that's the issue. Others don't even have a real passive. It's almost like an auto-process, I shoot at Valk and in a split-second she's airbourne, hurling missiles straight at me. Every single time if we're outdoors!
Well, that's nice. I get hit by it, usually because I just have to tank it in cover. If I move I get insta-beamed, and as I don't have invulnerable or movement abilities (or teammates who can bother shooting at enemies) I just have to tank it.
I never had alot of issues with Lifeline's shield, compared to Gibby's dome-revives. I had a whole range of opportunities.
1. Throw a nade, insta death (doesn't work against Gibby)
2. Push the revive (works against Gibby unless ult'ing)
3. Flank/high angle the shield (doesn't work against Gibby)
4. Wait for the shield to drop, one-tap revived player, down again, unless backpack (doesn't work against Gibby as his dome stays after reviving)
And probably others I can't think of right now. - 4 years ago
I think I never died with lifeline when I had a res situation going on, thats how I got my 3 team wipe badge on PS4, I just facetanked everything, my team cycled through reses and died to nade damage while I just kept droning through. She was insanely op, and in arena if she had that shied she would be 100% pickrate, if you dont pick her you loose kinda legend.
I think you might need to play valkyrie a bit to learn how to counter her, she dont have perma flying for one, its very easy to counter her, in some places she can be hard to chase with a non movement legend, octane, pathfinder, rev and so on has no issues chasing her if they can spot where she goes or has a $500 headset with proper sound enhancements. I am in no way conserned about any valk these days, she was a force a couple of months ago pre anim cancel fix. From what you say you refering to her pre fix, now she cant fly and beam, she got a proper cooldown on her flying to wield that cant be canceled anymore to my knowledge. Atleast shes very easy to counter for me.
Take a look at this: https://apexlegendsstatus.com/game-stats/legends-pick-rates/Masterpred
Its showing a clear trend on high level 😉 and is a proper picture of whats going on right now, she is strill strong buf not as strong as many other legends, especially on the current maps. And I think currently she is in a good spot when it comes to balancing, some legends might still need tuning to get up there yes, for instance lifeline, pls remove cooldown after res, that would make so much of a difference and open up more play options for her. Still maps and ranked rules will change pickrate, but I think when everything balance well, you will see top 5 change more between maps still wrath will stick, same with pathfinder and octane, their general kit is way to versatile as prime breacher/initiator tools compared to other legends.
- hayhor4 years agoHero
Why do people, when they bring up lifeline talk about her res shield as the needed buff. A passive shouldnt be dependent on teammates going down. Her passive should be auto health regen. Yes I know Octane has that but his depends on stim. And her ultimate should be a loot crate she puts down instantly. It would contain the same stuff as current care packages but it wouldn't be a beacon calling in enemies. It could give off a small noise and visual like Lobas ult.
- 4 years ago
I actually think if they remove the res cooldown thing lifeline will get a whole different profile, and she does not need much but there is something missing with her, and as I said earlier I think taking it small, try remove the res cooldown and see what does to her in the first place. Reason why the res shield pops up is because it was insanely op but people liked it if they played her and I do not think that is good way back for her, shes just gona hit a new nerftrain if they do.
- CCbathwater4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@ZkepzAgain, nice. If I died, have no idea. How many times have I killed or re-downed the revived? Countless of times.
Don't care about how BR balancing work in Arenas. Have seperate balancing for the 50 people actively playing Arenas then. Shouldn't influence the main game.
I have no idea what she can't or can do. I get missiled and she flies away. Insta! Like it's an automated process by the game when she gets shot at.
@hayhorAuto health regen? Sounds like another nerf. She's already got her drone. Why would you need two health regen abilities? Give me shield regen as a passive then, something useful. - hayhor4 years agoHero@CCbathwater Maybe she could ride her drone like a trident then.
- NickBeam274 years agoSeasoned Ace
I agree, I main LL and bringing back her shield res would eventually just cause more nerfs in the end to a legend already lacking.
I think your idea of health regen (slowly) makes more sense for a medic. I would also like to see them revert back to being able to move her tac drone while walking. Was nothing major impacting but was something. Just a lil somin somin.
- CCbathwater4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@NickBeam27I'd like to see her ult nerf reversed, so you once again can go from white to purple. Actually, the ult should just be replaced by the Control ult. 2 purple/gold armours and a helmet. That'd almost be worth the 5 minute wait.
- 3 years ago
Hey, HEY, you know what? I am not above...
I told you so!
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