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KelRiever

4 years ago

Valkyrie is broken and you know it

'Nuff said.

discussion

CCbathwater

Seasoned Ace

4 years ago

@Zkepz Valk's issue has nothing to do with sound. She's got (near) perma flying as a passive, that's the issue. Others don't even have a real passive. It's almost like an auto-process, I shoot at Valk and in a split-second she's airbourne, hurling missiles straight at me. Every single time if we're outdoors!
Well, that's nice. I get hit by it, usually because I just have to tank it in cover. If I move I get insta-beamed, and as I don't have invulnerable or movement abilities (or teammates who can bother shooting at enemies) I just have to tank it.

I never had alot of issues with Lifeline's shield, compared to Gibby's dome-revives. I had a whole range of opportunities.
1. Throw a nade, insta death (doesn't work against Gibby)
2. Push the revive (works against Gibby unless ult'ing)
3. Flank/high angle the shield (doesn't work against Gibby)
4. Wait for the shield to drop, one-tap revived player, down again, unless backpack (doesn't work against Gibby as his dome stays after reviving)
And probably others I can't think of right now.

Zkepz

4 years ago

I think I never died with lifeline when I had a res situation going on, thats how I got my 3 team wipe badge on PS4, I just facetanked everything, my team cycled through reses and died to nade damage while I just kept droning through. She was insanely op, and in arena if she had that shied she would be 100% pickrate, if you dont pick her you loose kinda legend.

I think you might need to play valkyrie a bit to learn how to counter her, she dont have perma flying for one, its very easy to counter her, in some places she can be hard to chase with a non movement legend, octane, pathfinder, rev and so on has no issues chasing her if they can spot where she goes or has a $500 headset with proper sound enhancements. I am in no way conserned about any valk these days, she was a force a couple of months ago pre anim cancel fix. From what you say you refering to her pre fix, now she cant fly and beam, she got a proper cooldown on her flying to wield that cant be canceled anymore to my knowledge. Atleast shes very easy to counter for me.

Take a look at this: https://apexlegendsstatus.com/game-stats/legends-pick-rates/Masterpred

Its showing a clear trend on high level 😉 and is a proper picture of whats going on right now, she is strill strong buf not as strong as many other legends, especially on the current maps. And I think currently she is in a good spot when it comes to balancing, some legends might still need tuning to get up there yes, for instance lifeline, pls remove cooldown after res, that would make so much of a difference and open up more play options for her. Still maps and ranked rules will change pickrate, but I think when everything balance well, you will see top 5 change more between maps still wrath will stick, same with pathfinder and octane, their general kit is way to versatile as prime breacher/initiator tools compared to other legends.

hayhor
Hero
4 years ago
Why do people, when they bring up lifeline talk about her res shield as the needed buff. A passive shouldnt be dependent on teammates going down. Her passive should be auto health regen. Yes I know Octane has that but his depends on stim. And her ultimate should be a loot crate she puts down instantly. It would contain the same stuff as current care packages but it wouldn't be a beacon calling in enemies. It could give off a small noise and visual like Lobas ult.
Zkepz
4 years ago
I actually think if they remove the res cooldown thing lifeline will get a whole different profile, and she does not need much but there is something missing with her, and as I said earlier I think taking it small, try remove the res cooldown and see what does to her in the first place. Reason why the res shield pops up is because it was insanely op but people liked it if they played her and I do not think that is good way back for her, shes just gona hit a new nerftrain if they do.
CCbathwater
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@ZkepzAgain, nice. If I died, have no idea. How many times have I killed or re-downed the revived? Countless of times.
Don't care about how BR balancing work in Arenas. Have seperate balancing for the 50 people actively playing Arenas then. Shouldn't influence the main game.

I have no idea what she can't or can do. I get missiled and she flies away. Insta! Like it's an automated process by the game when she gets shot at.

@hayhorAuto health regen? Sounds like another nerf. She's already got her drone. Why would you need two health regen abilities? Give me shield regen as a passive then, something useful.
hayhor
Hero
4 years ago
@CCbathwater Maybe she could ride her drone like a trident then.
NickBeam27
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
I agree, I main LL and bringing back her shield res would eventually just cause more nerfs in the end to a legend already lacking.
I think your idea of health regen (slowly) makes more sense for a medic. I would also like to see them revert back to being able to move her tac drone while walking. Was nothing major impacting but was something. Just a lil somin somin.
CCbathwater
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@NickBeam27I'd like to see her ult nerf reversed, so you once again can go from white to purple. Actually, the ult should just be replaced by the Control ult. 2 purple/gold armours and a helmet. That'd almost be worth the 5 minute wait.
KelRiever
3 years ago
Hey, HEY, you know what? I am not above...
I told you so!
XD