My PC is runningGTX 1070Ryzen 3600XInland NVME Gen 3 SSD (Game Installed on this)Razer Wolverine Ultimate controllerAKG K702 headphonesAsus PB278QSetting PC - Everything low or disabled (even V-Sync), motion blur (all the stuff a normal gamer turns off). Devs, stop adding motion blur to shooters. No way you're honestly gamers if you add this. No real gamer likes MOTION BLUR for a FPS.Console setupXbox Series XRazer wolverine ultimatePB278QYou can't disable really anything.Xbox Series XWay too many texture settings turned on. What is this, a competitive first person battle royale shooter or an RPG.What is going on with the frame rate. On my PC I would play at above 90 FPS (everything mostly low and/ or off) on a GTX 1070. The frames feel really bad on Series X. Just odd frame skips or something, feels clunky and/ or has weight if that makes sense.If people thought aim assist was an issue on PC, holy crap, stay far away from consoles. I played on PC for over 1100 hours with mostly a controller. This feels worst then Halo does with aim assist.

@Popa2caps You sound like you are used to a very high framerate on PC, I have never seen frame skips on Series X with this game. I came from Xbox One S which ran Apex horribly. Constant stuttering, average 45-50 FPS with dips into the 30s, super blurry so very hard to see people at distance, altogether a frustrating experience.The move to Series X solved every single one of those, even the stuttering which at first I thought might be a connection issue, nope it was just the old hardware couldn’t handle it. I have never seen the framerate go below constant 60 (the counter says 59 for some reason but it is def 60), except for one time in firing range I did Bangalore + Gibraltar ult at the same time while throwing thermite to stress test, it dipped into the mid 40s then went right back up. And that situation is unlikely in the majority of games...I can also play with maximum FOV with no issues where I had to keep it at 70-80 on One S to keep my framerate somewhat stable.Series X is the best way to experience Apex on console and they haven’t optimized it yet so it will hopefully get better.

@Popa2caps It depends on what you mean by runs better. The series x is running it in ultra settings at 60 with the max fov. Why would you not run at higher settings if it make no difference like it does for me. I find it much more enjoyable to play with the best visuals you can rather than the quality I see on some streams and YouTube videos. And let’s be honest about the aim assist it doesn’t give you his aim and doesn’t stick to people. If it did then explain how I missed in this video https://youtu.be/vU09iSKa-C8Also for my name is not John. The frame counter starts on frame 0. That why it goes to 59 when running at 60fps.

@MyName1sNotJohn Yeah these jitters are mostly during battle. On my PC everything works during a fight, not very much of an issue. On Xbox Series X it's off and on sometimes. Micro stutters is what I could call it. I have yet to see any other game feel like this on this new console. I wonder if I can capture it from the system itself. I'll try next time it starts and try to show an example.It's like someone locking up my frames right when I get shot or something. Like a massive jolt, then it's off. It's true I did play on PC for a long time, but no way I'm confusing this with high refresh rates as my monitor is still only 60 hz (60 hz = 60 FPS) and I use the same monitor for both my PC and Xbox Series X.

@Popa2caps I mean maybe I’m not noticing because of how smooth it was compared to my old one but I really haven’t noticed micro stuttering and that is exactly what I called it on the old Xbox..my game would stutter for a split second every 30 seconds or so, and in heavy battles I would get huge freezes up to almost a second, impossible to win 1v1s like that, anyway that is absent now for me. I do see animation skips sometimes but that isn’t something that affects gameplay for me

@MyName1sNotJohn I uploaded this video to show in detail more on what I see in Apex Legends on the Xbox Series X. I get this all the time on the system. I mostly notice it on Pathfinder because I'm always flying around. Sometimes I get this stutter while I get shot. Not always, but it happens.

Weaker PC Runs Apex Better Then My Xbox Series X?

13 Replies

MyName1sNotJohn
5 years ago
@Popa2caps You sound like you are used to a very high framerate on PC, I have never seen frame skips on Series X with this game. I came from Xbox One S which ran Apex horribly. Constant stuttering, average 45-50 FPS with dips into the 30s, super blurry so very hard to see people at distance, altogether a frustrating experience.

The move to Series X solved every single one of those, even the stuttering which at first I thought might be a connection issue, nope it was just the old hardware couldn’t handle it. I have never seen the framerate go below constant 60 (the counter says 59 for some reason but it is def 60), except for one time in firing range I did Bangalore + Gibraltar ult at the same time while throwing thermite to stress test, it dipped into the mid 40s then went right back up. And that situation is unlikely in the majority of games...I can also play with maximum FOV with no issues where I had to keep it at 70-80 on One S to keep my framerate somewhat stable.

Series X is the best way to experience Apex on console and they haven’t optimized it yet so it will hopefully get better.
Anonymous
5 years ago
@MyName1sNotJohn

Yeah these jitters are mostly during battle. On my PC everything works during a fight, not very much of an issue. On Xbox Series X it's off and on sometimes. Micro stutters is what I could call it. I have yet to see any other game feel like this on this new console. I wonder if I can capture it from the system itself. I'll try next time it starts and try to show an example.

It's like someone locking up my frames right when I get shot or something. Like a massive jolt, then it's off. It's true I did play on PC for a long time, but no way I'm confusing this with high refresh rates as my monitor is still only 60 hz (60 hz = 60 FPS) and I use the same monitor for both my PC and Xbox Series X.
MyName1sNotJohn
5 years ago
@Popa2caps I mean maybe I’m not noticing because of how smooth it was compared to my old one but I really haven’t noticed micro stuttering and that is exactly what I called it on the old Xbox..my game would stutter for a split second every 30 seconds or so, and in heavy battles I would get huge freezes up to almost a second, impossible to win 1v1s like that, anyway that is absent now for me. I do see animation skips sometimes but that isn’t something that affects gameplay for me
Anonymous
5 years ago
@MyName1sNotJohn

I uploaded this video to show in detail more on what I see in Apex Legends on the Xbox Series X. I get this all the time on the system. I mostly notice it on Pathfinder because I'm always flying around. Sometimes I get this stutter while I get shot. Not always, but it happens.
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@Popa2caps Try it on ps4 once. 🤣

The difference on ps5 is immense for me. I can see so many details much further. And I never see frame drops. Yes you can get better on PC due to the options and lack of locking settings but PC also has a lot more cheaters and a smaller player base. Then you have to deal with all the different configuration options the devs have to worry about and all the crashing that can result from it. I've had gaming PCs. I always prefer a console. Everything is simplified and everyone is at an even playing field.

Oh and let's be real about the aim assist. Yes it is turned up more to help on console but it never ever "locks on".
Anonymous
5 years ago
@hayhor

I get that you could be coming from the original consoles from 2013, but that's not what this discussion was supported to be about at all. I blame myself for the title, my bad. I changed it to better reflect what I was trying to say.

This wasn't at all to be a PC just wins or anything close to that. I'm not biased and/ or brand loyal to any company or product at all. I could love a game, but if they do something I hate, I'll speak my mind instantly.

The point I was trying to convey was that my weaker PC could run Apex Legends far better, even though the Xbox Series X has better hardware then my PC. That's only my point of view though. I get some people are coming from older hardware and the SSD alone should be enough for people to be happy. I'm not at all trying to bash your new experience, I'm not that type of person. Just stating my point of view with the system.

I don't agree on the subject that consoles have a bigger community than PC for Apex Legends, I think the opposite. I think most free 2 play games have more people from PC because they spent all their money on their hardware. Is that biased thinking? I know more people who spent $100 on their heat sink then games in the last 2 years on PC.

All jokes aside, I still think Apex has a bigger PC community still. A quick glance on Twitch looks mostly PC with controllers in my opinion. Most like the high 200+ frame rates.

Another point is the aim assist. Yeah, it's true that PCs have cheaters. That's 100% real. After playing on console this much though, with this amount of aim assist, this feels like everyone is an aim bot...

Like, everyone has god aim. On PC, it would be rare for a mouse & keyboard player to hit you this much, even some good players.

I would honestly play against a mouse & keyboard player, over an aim assisted controller player any day. I think that's why I like playing PUBG on consoles, it has no aim assist.
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@Popa2caps I didnt take your post as a vs one. I just simply stated why I view things differently.

Yeah I'm not sure about which platform has more. I made the assumption that cross play was as much about boosting PC lobbies up as anything. Especially when before crossplay some PC players were complaining about queue times and have now stopped.
Mr_Mi5ch13f_2
5 years ago
@Popa2caps It depends on what you mean by runs better. The series x is running it in ultra settings at 60 with the max fov. Why would you not run at higher settings if it make no difference like it does for me. I find it much more enjoyable to play with the best visuals you can rather than the quality I see on some streams and YouTube videos. And let’s be honest about the aim assist it doesn’t give you his aim and doesn’t stick to people. If it did then explain how I missed in this video https://youtu.be/vU09iSKa-C8

Also for my name is not John. The frame counter starts on frame 0. That why it goes to 59 when running at 60fps.
MyName1sNotJohn
5 years ago
@Mr_Mi5ch13f_2 Ok makes sense ty.

Now that the title has been changed, I am no PC guru but I think they could better optimize it for next gen for sure. For a number of reasons a lot of devs at different companies are behind in optimizing for the new Xbox, hardware availability was a reason, I have my fingers crossed that we will see more optimization in the future. Unlocked framerate beyond 60 for sure should be an obvious one, I don’t know what else they could do since I’m not super familiar with PC settings
Anonymous
5 years ago
@MyName1sNotJohn

For starters I would immediately have an option to disable ambient occlusion, anti aliasing, lens flare and motion blur. It's adding to the input latency too much in my opinion. I'm only asking that they allow the user to disable these, not saying they should just turn them off automatically.