I'm curious what do you guys think are OP or need some buff when it comes to weapons and legends?GunsIn my opinion, this might the only season where there is not a single uber overpowered gun. I think the L-Star needs a little bit more nerfing though.Nerf the L-star. It's nearing the Spitfire meta especially in PC lobbies. I don't know what to do with the Bocek Bow. No one really uses it. Should they give back more power into it? Since the announcement of another new weapon (we got a new one every season since S8), do you think another gun will be put in the carepackage? People are saying that the R301 might be the next one.I miss the hammerpoint rounds but I don't think they'll bring that back as long as the Alternator with Disruptor rounds is in the CP.Remove shattercap rounds from the loot pool.LegendsSame goes with the legends. There's no OP legend right now but some legends definitely need some love. I hope Respawn stops the habit of over nerfing a legend only to buff it a little every season. Buff Crypto, Wattson, and Lifeline. How about a bit more love for Caustic as well?FIX WATTSON (not really a buff or a nerf, just fix her abilities lol)Gibby is a difficult one. CCbathwater and Cropitt made some valuable points around Gibby on another thread. Make another legend like him or nerf him without completely destroying Gibby's core strength and advantages. What do you guys think about Seer's current state?

@Cheese9Man Absolutely not, no more Bocek buffing. No one plays it because it's dumb and is in the wrong game. I'd rather just punch if contested than pick up a bow.I don't know about Seer, haven't played against post-nerf Seer so have no clue. But obviously Seer at release even made Gibby go: "Holy ****! That new guy sure has a big bag of tricks!"@MyName1sNotJohn How about giving her fences an electrified "roof" if she connects at least three nodes in a triangle formation outside? That could at least make Octanes and Valks think twice before jumping in on a Wattson team. Also, if she fences a door, opening the door should slow and dmg, so you'd actually have to nade the door to avoid that. Now I'm just brainstorming, but it's all not enough to fix her though.

the * matchmaking being already fixed maybe?it's * tiring to go against idk who you guys are on some secret ancient tibetian server that only grants you solo players when you play solobecause when I play solo it's always and I mean always a fight against a very obvisously premade squadit's insane

@damsonwhufndthis A complete rework would be better. Her passive as a quick reload and an extended mag is just lazy tbh.

I think Seer is fine. Wattson needs to be fixed ASAP as well as some QoL buffs but nothing insane. Even just giving fences more health and slightly reducing cooldown would be enough but I also wish unlimited pylon would come back (and also for it to quit blocking my team’s projectiles). Would be nice to see Crypto get some love as well, I don’t play him but he needs something quick to stay relevant. I am curious what buffs you think Lifeline should receive as I tend to see nothing but complaints about her revive. I agree her ultimate needs something changed about it though.I think the guns are in an ok place. LSTAR could probably use a nerf but nothing huge. Carbine also got shadow buffed so maybe that should return to its normal fire rate, or stay as is if it’s actually going in the package. I would be kind of surprised if the care package weapons switched again so soon though.

@Cheese9Man With the addition of a 4th BR map, I would personally love to see the map rotation timer nerf'd to maybe 45 minutes MAX. There's no way they'll leave the timer as is, with a 4th map, right? Hopefully not...

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Cheese9Man

4 years ago

What do you want to get nerfed/buffed for S11?

I'm curious what do you guys think are OP or need some buff when it comes to weapons and legends?

Guns
In my opinion, this might the only season where there is not a single uber overpowered gun. I think the L-Star needs a little bit more nerfing though.

Nerf the L-star. It's nearing the Spitfire meta especially in PC lobbies.
I don't know what to do with the Bocek Bow. No one really uses it. Should they give back more power into it?
Since the announcement of another new weapon (we got a new one every season since S8), do you think another gun will be put in the carepackage? People are saying that the R301 might be the next one.
I miss the hammerpoint rounds but I don't think they'll bring that back as long as the Alternator with Disruptor rounds is in the CP.
Remove shattercap rounds from the loot pool.

Legends

Same goes with the legends. There's no OP legend right now but some legends definitely need some love. I hope Respawn stops the habit of over nerfing a legend only to buff it a little every season.

Buff Crypto, Wattson, and Lifeline. How about a bit more love for Caustic as well?
FIX WATTSON (not really a buff or a nerf, just fix her abilities lol)
Gibby is a difficult one. CCbathwater and Cropitt made some valuable points around Gibby on another thread. Make another legend like him or nerf him without completely destroying Gibby's core strength and advantages.
What do you guys think about Seer's current state?

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Redmattgame
4 years ago
Havoc was always one of my favourite secondary weapons in the early seasons of Apex & yes it was OP especially with the Turbocharger but a succession of nerfs mainly making the recoil worse has made it a bit of a chore to handle. it's kind of sad to see so many discarded Havocs now with the realization that finding a Turbocharger for it pretty slim & so bringing back the Select-fire hop-up for the old single fire blast would be good & bring some much needed love back to the Havoc.
Sand_spitter
4 years ago
Remove the bow from the game.

I think all guns should be viable weapons to play with not just some, with the exception of whatever is in the care package, it makes sense that those weapons are stronger. Some weapons have greater drawbacks than others and I'm not a fan of it. You encounter someone on drop who picked up a p2020 and you basically just got a free kill handed to you if you picked up almost any other weapon.

They could also remove the delay on the havoc, nerf the damage slightly and drop the turbocharger all together. They could basically make it a energy ammo flatline. That slight delay when firing will get you killed half the time, that's why I rarely see anyone using it.

Fix the matchmaking so that there's more in between and not just a really easy lobby or insanely difficult lobbies like it is most of the time. I'm all for a challenging game but being blatantly outclassed by playing against 20k badge players isn't fun either. Fix this and smurf accounts will significantly decrease all on their own. Some wins aren't rewarding at all because it feels like they came too easily and most other games feel like an exercise in futility.

Servers.

Audio.

Unpopular opinion, but I wouldn't mind seeing better looking characters. I know, I know.. But man, sometimes looking at some of these characters and some skins in particular just makes me cringe.
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@Sand_spitter Instead of the G7, why not place the bow in there instead for the marksman replacement. It's just weird that it is the only weapon that has a different ammo type. The P2020 was viable when we had the hammerpoint rounds (RIP).
What do mean that some characters look bad?! Respawn has never made an ugly skin yet! *sarcasm*
Sand_spitter
4 years ago
@Cheese9Man You raise valid points, but the bow just feels out of place to me and as for a weapon needing an attachment to be good just makes is a deal breaker for me instantly. Also I'm not the biggest fan of taking ground loot and putting them in care packages, I feel like the way things were way back with the Devo / Kraber / L-Star in the care package was fine. But who knows, if you put the bow in there and give a a good DPS and hitscan it might work? As far as character design goes I think Valk is probably the best looking one atm. Also ROTFL at those skins - never seen them before, they're terrible! :D
Sand_spitter
4 years ago
@PsyhiX69 I agree, her animation, especially before (and sometimes after) teleport gets me killed every single time! That's why I stopped using it during fights. They did the same to Wraith.
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
First confirmed weapon buff for S11. LOL.
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
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