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5 years ago

Why the massive discrepancy/exceptions for some weapons? (Also hitboxes)

Look, I'm aware that there's probably 10 topics about what I am about to share but nothing really provides a definitive and objective perspective to this lack of balance within the game which makes t...

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BaldWraithSimp

5 years ago

@ShaoAZYour comparison between CS:Go desert eagle and Wingman makes no sense as Apex doesn't punish you for A-D spamming while CS:Go requires you to be 'not moving' while shooting or your accuracy takes a big hit and that stands for every single gun, not just Desert eagle.

As someone who has over 2k hours in Apex, I still don't pick up a Wingman often cuz I am so bad at it. It's OP if you have a very good aim, or there is no point in picking it up. You lost me at 'RE-45 requires more skill than Wingman' lmao

As for Hemlock, I have been a Hemlock user for past 3 seasons(secondary) and the only thing they messed up was reducing recoil to the point where it was too easy and noob-friendly, so I agree with you on that. Revert it to S5 state and it will slide quietly to it's peaceful state as a secondary weapon. It always had good hip-fire, the buffs made it OP.

ShaoAZ
5 years ago
@BaldWraithSimp I think you're not understanding. I said that I saw many times people comparing both as deadly accurate pistols that takes competent aim, however they all forget on the mobility fact, like I stated it takes commitment in between shots, can't AD spam and stutterstep is going to be as mobile as it gets. Just to slide this in though SMG's do allow for mobility but that's besides the point.

I would recommend that you try and compare both the Wingman and RE-45 to see which has the worst handling, to achieve about the same damage as the Wing on RE you need 4 shots which easily tosses the screen up right while the Wing moves about barely 5% of what the RE suffers from. You can easily tell by that which is the hardest to achieve max DPS, barrel mitigates but doesn't make it any easier to be consistent.

I still don't understand why the Hemlok burst needs to be so strong when it's deadly accurate already and I was really confused when they buffed it even more not long ago, I was using it a lot, I liked the weapon but when I realized how pathetically weak the Flatline was, it became obvious as to why everyone picks up the Hemlok. Part of me wondered why targets melted so fast with little effort on my part, seeing the 23 vs 19 per bullet was shocking.

I heard that the Hemlok was barely used before hence why they buffed it but why if it was balanced in the past? It would still be a great primary gun even if it had equal damage as the Flatline, it'll still be a good battle rifle for the people that prefer burst over full-auto, the hipfire at close as is awesome and I can stand beside that, however the damage is bonkers.