@CocoaHyena But that's exactly my point...they aren't bad players at all. They are doing exactly what the scoring system forces them to do.
You get 'Hard Stuck' at Platinum not because you are a bad player, but because the scoring system is super trash. If you can stop blaming players, and maybe look from a different point of view, if those players actually got reward for, say, actually beating people who were better than them, then they would actually play differently.
It is, in my opinion, a mistake to blame players for a Respawn problem. And also all too easy. Hot dropping is not a noob tactic in gold, it is what some people, with good evidence, consider they need to do. And they really aren't getting rewarded at all for doing something else. Removing tier protection will absolutely not solve this problem, as you'll instead just have people get to a certain rank and then continue all the other bad behaviors you see because they'd be too afraid to lose ranked points.
What would make sense, far more sense, is to let people who beat others at their play level advance. If you get into top 10...the half way mark, and you get 1 kill, you should not be losing points. Probably you should get exactly +1 point, which is definitely not going to get you to diamond. But that is barely across the line, anyway. If you are killing 1 person at your level, and placing higher, you should not be massively rewarded, but you are actually performing better than the others who are now dead....so your score should reflect that.
People look at the scoring system and I believe the first thing they see is that at Platinum, the scoring system is worthless. They realize there is no difference between Platinum IV players in any way, shape or form. You only even get to Platinum III if you've lasted long enough against players far better. So might as well hot drop and try their luck. Or might as well just play charge the nearest thing you see...because you need so much to advance through platinum let alone get to diamond. If they fail, oh well. If there was no tier protection, they'd do something far worse.
So, that's really all this is about. I think it's the straw man argument to keep talking about the plat players. You want to fix the problem? Fix the scoring system and the players will follow.
You only get to say someone is bad if you are higher than Platinum IV and are speaking relatively. Because bad means worse than average and that's not true statistically. Only in relation to another player who is higher rank.
That's a fair point, but what it is, to me, is still trash talking players. If you're good you're good, and then what you are being is a sore winner. I mean, if you're good, you shouldn't need to put other people down but that's what people do. Me, I do not care because I know the truth. But I know a lot of people get put off by such things and frankly, they are right to be put off by it.
Bottom line is Platinum players are completely above average players. You might be better than average and call another better than average player who is worse than you bad. But on an absolute basis, that is factually wrong.
Oh, and you are also definitely wrong about not getting kills, assists and placements. You can absolutely get all three on a regular basis and not go up in rank.
The title is kind of misleading. Alot of plat 4 players need the ability to downgrade to gold. Noob is subjective. If you can’t withdraw from a fight or have no game sense to not take on certain fights(you know open fights with your back and every side exposed) I will call you a noob.
I make diamond in ranked by slugging through solo and platinum. My biggest gripe this season with ranked in general is being punished on points for killing lower ranked players. Yet getting saddled with gold and silver players through plat that have no business being there. If you fire as soon as you see an enemy it is going to be a hard pass from me.
I used to get mad now I just expect bad teammates and play to my advantage. If that means leaving a teammate who hot rushed a squad by himself so be it. Games are meant to be fun and ranked is just to test your skill. Sometimes you win sometimes not.
As far as straight up boosting that is a crock of butt residue. I know it happens, discord when I was on there was full of players offering it. I don’t know about anyone else but I play to have fun and if I am not I find something else. I am using rank as filler now and then and I am leaving standard apex alone.
To sum up one can make it to plat and still be a noob, getting kills doesn’t signify anything. Gold hot drop get 4 kills as caustic or fuse in a poi where these legends are superior. There you just got positive points. Do that in plat and you may make positive 4 before getting wrecked.
Anyhoot that is just my 2 Pennie’s worth. Good night, happy holidays and enjoy your game of choice everyone.
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