Xims on console
People on console using keyboard and mouse need to be addressed, this is remotely the same problem as aim bots on pc.
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People are confusing actual cheating/hacks with someone who has years of experience using m&k then going to console. The typical console player who's used nothing but controller would not instantly become MLG Pro overnight after switching to m&k. Xim doesn't change any code and is still bound by the restrictions as the controller its plugged into. It simply translates one device to another.
Actual aim bots, and hacks I don't condone. Also, how is "Win boosting" a service you can pay for not a bigger issue? More people do that than actually use a XIm, I guarantee you.
When bad players need a scapegoat, Xim is easy to blame.
@DankToliet wrote:People are confusing actual cheating/hacks with someone who has years of experience using m&k then going to console. The typical console player who's used nothing but controller would not instantly become MLG Pro overnight after switching to m&k. Xim doesn't change any code and is still bound by the restrictions as the controller its plugged into. It simply translates one device to another.
Actual aim bots, and hacks I don't condone. Also, how is "Win boosting" a service you can pay for not a bigger issue? More people do that than actually use a XIm, I guarantee you.
When bad players need a scapegoat, Xim is easy to blame.
Nice try explaining how it doesn't give an advantage, but everyone with basic understanding knows that mouse and keyboard is vastly, and I mean VASTLY superior input technology.
It's not even remotely close to controller aim.
I don’t think that it is as vast as you think. I play with a controller on both both pc and x box due to rsi. My stats are considerably better on pc. It is is not what I thought would happen but unless the kB and m users are really good I think the aim assist makes up for quite well. I also have found this in fornite as well. The controller lobbies are a much higher standard in my experience.
@DankToliet wrote:People are confusing actual cheating/hacks with someone who has years of experience using m&k then going to console. The typical console player who's used nothing but controller would not instantly become MLG Pro overnight after switching to m&k. Xim doesn't change any code and is still bound by the restrictions as the controller its plugged into. It simply translates one device to another.
Actual aim bots, and hacks I don't condone. Also, how is "Win boosting" a service you can pay for not a bigger issue? More people do that than actually use a XIm, I guarantee you.
When bad players need a scapegoat, Xim is easy to blame.
It's too bad the developers don't see it your way.
Polygon Article KB+M on Console
KB+M is easy to use it's just point and click. your using your wrist and arm to shoot with and the WASD keys to move vs. Two thumbs not to mention you have unlimited space [relativly speaking, bigger mouse pad] so how is it fair ? KB+M is more responsive then a controller the input lag from your click to what you see is hundredths of a millisecond compared to mouse and key board.
You might not be MLG pro but you definetly could do some more damage and a higher kill count with KB+M compared to controller on console.
Also KB+M is more precise with it's aim and you can set your sesitivity to lower sensitivity compared to the whole number's on a controller in some game's.
- @RevenanT-G7 here's an actual non biased, well written article that research was actually put in
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pajg8y/is-using-a-mouse-and-keyboard-on-consoles-cheating
@DankToliet wrote:
@RevenanT-G7here's an actual non biased, well written article that research was actually put in
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pajg8y/is-using-a-mouse-and-keyboard-on-consoles-cheatingOF course the CEO, Developer or the PR Guy of the XIM would say that to protect, sell and make a profit of his device. what company wouldn't stand behind their product ?
This is a very one sided article where for the majority of the article it's about the CEO / president, developer whatever he is of the product XIM defending it's product.
Even Blizzard has said, and I quote: "However, we have put serious research and development against this problem and we're hoping to have a solution to what we consider to be unfair circumstances. This is a priority for us and we're trying to combat this through technology and policy."
It's up to the Developer to decide what is fair and not. Not the CEO of the device on console. It is known since the Atari day's [even before] Home consoles are to be played with a Controller not a KB+M.
If the Companies of these console would wanted a KB+M they would have made them that way.
- @DankToliet Hello sir, it seems you do not understand how a K&M gives a much greater advantage on console vs those using a controller.
If you'd like, I can introduce you to Rainbows Diamond / Plat league and you can see how using a mouse can and is a game changer.- @iBlockHead I would just like to see how you actually determine someone is using one when they kill you? Surely it can't be a controller user that's just better right?
@DankTolietWatch enough footage of the two different types and you build up a fairly good sense of which is which.
I have to say though the "playing on a level playing field" argument is dead and gone, and it's nothing to do with Xim/Chronus. 3p controllers with extra buttons, paddles etc, playing on different monitors/tvs , even having an xbox one X instead of a normal one - these are things all confer an unfair advantage.
The days of consoles being all the same hardware and everyone on a level playing field have been over for a long time. This isn't an argument against Xim. If I use the level playing field logic : if some guy goes out and spends 2-300 bucks on a better controller than mine, I'd be well within reason to go out and spend the same money on a Xim, keyboard and mouse.
Nah it's basically aimbot, I tried even though I never played PC before. It felt like a straight up aimbot. Now I play PC and it is nowhere close to a normal M+KB.
It is cheating plain and simple there is no valid excuse or argument for allowing this in console.
- @EThought113213 It's not an aimbot. You don't know what an aimbot is.
