What did that do with Aim Assist? It seems really OP right now. I would curious to see how console players are doing now since the 1.2 patch?Every encounter with a console player is a death now. I got some trade kills, but if I get hit with one bullet, no matter what, I am dead. Has any else noticed this? I finally got a lag free game in and then every engagement is a death by console player.

I tought it would never happen, but i have to agree with Atic here. Both pc and console have their own problems and i believe the trouble lays network/patches/update etc wise, and not person wise. I hope this will be fix for both sides, so we all can play the game how its ment to be. I for one don't mind playing with console players...they kill me and i kill them..i see no differents. I totaly understand that some console players prefer to play only against other console players, so i hope for them there wil be a console only option. In the end...we are all gamers and we like to play..no matter if you are a noob( like me ) or a ace. Specialy now with what's going on with this game, we have to stand united.

I have to laugh at you PC players whining.The only thing they did was remove the aim slow down bubble that was making it damn near impossible to track moving targets.The snap aim still doesn't work 80% of the time, there is no horizontal tracking/assitAs a Series X player the only noticable difference after patch my aim isn't stuck in lag do to the aim assit bubble anymore.So if your losing to a console player its because they out shot you not to aim assit. The only difference now is console players aren't being even more handicapped by the old aim assit.

@xXHappy_PuppyXxTotally agree that the net code via cross play is creating much of the TTK/TTD/hit reg/desync/lag compensation/etc issues with BF 2042, along with the fact there are not enough players online at one time consistently for the MM system to fill a game server with players in localized low latency zones. So add packet loss and 300ms and higher pings to the net code equation formula of online chaos.As it stands, BF 2042 net code is like the Heisenberg uncertainty principle...sometimes it is impossible to predict outcomes so it just manufactures player reality from nothingness..😛Honestly the PC/Console "Aim-Assist" debate is is just predictable tribal human nature, but is mostly a distraction from logical reality that BF 2042 contains a few dozen major net code issues that create a system of inconsistently fair gameplay.And other games have similar issues. For example, I play a game that is PVE with players across the entire globe, running 200ms to 300ms pings, and it worked great until the Devs recently added "cross play". Now PC/Playstation/Xbox players can't even go one round without someone dropping, new weird lag effects are constant, basically ruined the game as the net code can't handle both the high latency and the different platforms now, and it was fine with high latency and the same platforms previously.BF 2042 running five different platforms was a neat idea, but the idea is better than reality with 128 player modes full of high and low ping players using a MM system only really works well with tens of thousands of players, not a couple of thousand online....Dice knows this, but the game was sold as 128 player, so no easy way to reverse it completely at this point. What is needed is 32-64 player max with latency limits and a higher tick rates, or even maybe even just total map variable refresh per tick like Apex Legends, not the zoned approach used currently with BF 2042...Even better, just dump the MM system and go back to server browsers...but at this point, I'm guessing that isn't even possible as it seems to be the number one requested feature for the last 8-9 months, yet not a single comment from either Dice or EA concerning server browsers...🤔

@RaginSam /facepalm the console aim assit is not the same as pc... hence in the patch notes it was a fix to console aim assit.I have played both full aim assit and with it off. There is no discernable difference.In fact do to the slow bubble effect I had to turn it off as it was that detrimental to gameplay.

Try playing with a controller and see if it's really as OP as you think. Aim assist doesn't work like it does in CoD. It doesn't stick to players and 'aimbots' targets. It literally slows down your reticle when you're already on the target. The person is still having to aim.For what it's worth I'm playing worse than before the update. The aim assist still doesn't function well enough.

Aim Assist improvements or Crossplay Bunk Netcode?

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RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@AdamonicI’ve felt the same for a while now. It’s like you get all the info in one packet, reminds me of BF4 with the “super bullet” issue. On top of that, it feels like they don’t miss. I end up dying behind cover a lot, which just makes me believe it’s mostly down to discrepancies in what we’re seeing vs them in the server.

Some things people tend to avoid when talking about aim assist and it’s fairness:

- it locks on to players hit boxes, not their character models. I have to lead my shots like I’m throwing rocks half the time.
- easier to track with visual clutter. On mouse I pull my reticle off someone real quick and flick back. There’s so much visual clutter at times you can’t tell if you’re still on target or not. Aim assist will just stay on target.
- it frees you up mentally. Mouse players have to concentrate and focus pretty intensely when aiming. Once you’re on target with AA it takes over and you only have to worry about recoil.
- with a mouse uneven game performance effects your aim. If the game stutters it essentially messes with your sensitivity and therefore your muscle memory. AA when on target will track through this.

I have some friends on console, and when the game released they would kill me incredibly quickly. I remember one was sniping with a x1 across the map and hitting me! That’s a very hard shot on MnK. My other buddy was using a scout, and he couldn’t miss with that. That’s pretty anecdotal evidence, but still makes you wonder a bit.

I think overall aiming with a mouse is easier because you’re engaging way more muscles. Those muscles are also far more accurate then your thumbs. You can find a mouse for any size hand. Players that are good with controllers probably have above average dexterity and accuracy with their thumbs vs most people. If you had one group use only a mouse to play FPS games and another group use only controllers, I’m pretty sure the mouse group would have a higher percentage of them feeling more comfortable with that device. Mice can fit all different shapes and sizes of peoples hands. Controllers, while most people can hold one properly, I don’t think that means it’s comfortable or works with their hand anatomy. Hopefully that made sense… I tried.
ATFGunr
Legend
3 years ago
@Adamonic Yah Ironhead and I were talking about that last night, I guess console players can stop complaining now eh? It’s our turn. Bad enough that the game itself is dumbed down to play on consoles, but the awful port Dice did (as usual for any port) is one of the reasons the game is such an awful state. Guess we get to complain about not being able to turn off cross play now as console players are a bunch of hackers? Also the whole game seems twitchy AF, sped up but in a bad way. Nice to run faster, but turning is a *.
xXHappy_PuppyXx
Rising Ace
3 years ago
I have to laugh at you PC players whining.
The only thing they did was remove the aim slow down bubble that was making it damn near impossible to track moving targets.
The snap aim still doesn't work 80% of the time, there is no horizontal tracking/assit
As a Series X player the only noticable difference after patch my aim isn't stuck in lag do to the aim assit bubble anymore.
So if your losing to a console player its because they out shot you not to aim assit. The only difference now is console players aren't being even more handicapped by the old aim assit.
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@xXHappy_PuppyXx wrote:
I have to laugh at you PC players whining.
The only thing they did was remove the aim slow down bubble that was making it damn near impossible to track moving targets.
The snap aim still doesn't work 80% of the time, there is no horizontal tracking/assit
As a Series X player the only noticable difference after patch my aim isn't stuck in lag do to the aim assit bubble anymore.
So if your losing to a console player its because they out shot you not to aim assit. The only difference now is console players aren't being even more handicapped by the old aim assit.
Okay cool, then turn off aim assist and see how many gunfights you win. Aim assist is necessary, but it’s not about if controllers should have it. It’s always been an argument of how much assist should controller players get?
I’ve plugged in a controller a couple of times and It absolutely tracks horizontally. I’m a potato on a controller and was shredding people up close with SMG’s.
xXHappy_PuppyXx
Rising Ace
3 years ago
@RaginSam /facepalm the console aim assit is not the same as pc... hence in the patch notes it was a fix to console aim assit.

I have played both full aim assit and with it off. There is no discernable difference.

In fact do to the slow bubble effect I had to turn it off as it was that detrimental to gameplay.
Adamonic
3 years ago
I appreciate everyone's feedback and I knew I would get a few "you PC players" and "quit whining" but when you are playing on a server with half PC players and every death is from a console player, that is not just “get gud". I have been playing BF since 1942 (the game lol) and I would consider myself at least slightly above average.
Just like with other design decisions, they are catering more and more to novice players. They already have lag compensation helping out players with high pings and now this seems like they went a little extreme on the aim assist settings. I am glad it is working better for console players but man it sucks that every time I am hit, I'm killed. I get hit by PC players a few times but not killed. I can get to cover, heal, and return fire. I take screenshots of every death just to record net stats, so I have receipts.
Psubond
3 years ago
I didnt notice a difference for my play but holy * i was getting melted tonight, idk if i was having a bad night or what but i couldn't stay alive
*edit* Xbox one btw
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@xXHappy_PuppyXx /facepalm It’s cross play my dude.

Not all console players were having an issue to begin with.

Play without aim assist and watch your stats. There’s a big difference. Aim assist helps a lot more than you realize.
xXHappy_PuppyXx
Rising Ace
3 years ago
@RaginSam Reading comprehension is a issue for I take it....

All ready said I played with it off
xXHappy_PuppyXx
Rising Ace
3 years ago
@Adamonic The problem is when you start your premise with a lie it invalidates anything you say. You did not die everytime to a console player that's mathematically impossible.

Dice did other things such as server adjustments those can have more effect then some imaginary aim assit that's not their.

I have challenged you PC players to show hand and screen camra footage of this imagined aimassit tracking and yet not one has ever shown it on console nor pc using a controller.

Never once have I had my "aim assit" pull tracking on a target. The easy way to tell is if you are aiming at one target and a enemy closer to you runs through your aim point it should automatically pull your aim to the closer target and that does not happen with 2042.