Another reason Specialists dont belong here...
Honestly Specialists need to be let go and not have them in any future BF games. Just want normal classes of no name soldiers back.......things like this is ridiculous
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@CantGetRightto be honest I highly doubt stealth helis would have been a thing without the specialists, because it would have made it way more OP than it already is, and totally mess up the balance
Using Paik is not cheating.
Lis using a 3rd party wallhack is.
I think Paik should be returned to her former setup. You have to pay attention to the map to see her which is still an advantage for her because youre not heads up.
I have been in games were 50% of the players are Paik. It is no longer US vs USSR, it is now Vs Korea. Paiks advantage is so huge, everybody is switching
All that being said, this isnt a reason to remove all specialists. That solution is like decapitating the head to prevent skin cancer from attack it.
- @CantGetRight depends if DICE gave the engineer a hacking gadget.....
in BF4 for exampe you could just deploy an automated AA trap to annoy it without lookign through your stinger 24/7....
but hey what do i know Some other reasons why they don't belong:
1. Made for bad/new players - gives them a crutch, same goes for ez mode weapons and vehicles
2. Impossible to balance team based game with unique individual capabilities, this is where we are now
3. Targeted younger players (goofy design - see OG Angel/Mackay) which is the wrong target audience for BF (mature)
4. Made to be politically correct. Was any gender/race/ethnicity not represented yet? Don't worry THEY have more coming. Who cares? Wasted dev time on this instead of working on netcode.5. Completely breaks game narrative and immersion (worst concept ever, no-Pats really?) - This should've been a follow-up to BF4 storylines.
* Note - this post is directly in response to the OP's post and is on topic and perfectly written *
- @CountSero in general i agree with the point the players choose to play as a team not the classes, yet in 2042 you can run Falk/Angel for example and essentially ignore all 31/63 players in your team entirely since you can resupply and heal yourself at your own leisure. Angel is in essence a one man army, using the airdrop to use whatever he needs for any given situation....
with classes you are eventually forced to seek out teamates, now ofc there is no garantee that whoever medic/support is near you will be of any use to you whatsoever... yet there was never a loadout in any BF game prior to 2042 where one class could simply do it all. now we have Angel and i garantee it will only get worse if DICE is left to do as they please
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@CountSeroin general i agree with the point the players choose to play as a team not the classes, yet in 2042 you can run Falk/Angel for example and essentially ignore all 31/63 players in your team entirely since you can resupply and heal yourself at your own leisure. Angel is in essence a one man army, using the airdrop to use whatever he needs for any given situation....
with classes you are eventually forced to seek out teamates, now ofc there is no garantee that whoever medic/support is near you will be of any use to you whatsoever... yet there was never a loadout in any BF game prior to 2042 where one class could simply do it all. now we have Angel and i garantee it will only get worse if DICE is left to do as they pleaseAngel functions as support. His resupply is not just for him. Other battlefield you could “pick up” classes. i.e. pick up downed medic load out and revive medic or swap class on death to one more appropriate. There have always been medics that don’t revive and support that doesn’t give ammo. It is ultimately player freedom of choice and not the specialist creating the problem.
@AdamonicI think we can all agree that this game was not designed for 'veteran' players, at all. Portal was the 'love letter' to us (assuming you don't play with 2042 characters/vehicles/guns).
The next Battlefield will determine whether the game goes back to its roots, or continues as a hero shooter hybrid for casual players.- @Lancelot_du_Lac If it was for casual players then the BP would have been easier, and T1 (if not broken) would also be easy. I do think they planned it to be a hero shooter, I’m not convinced they wanted it to be causal. I think they wanted immersion and a free floating wallet for all the cool purple skins. It’s like they had no idea what the BF players actually wanted. I don’t mind the specialists, frankly they could have made that work for both factions and within classes, would have been a step forward. Instead, we got what we got.
- @ATFGunr Perhaps 'casual' is the wrong word - I was thinking along the lines of non-team/squad players, or lone wolf players. For example, I haven't played in a regular squad since BF2.
- @Lancelot_du_LacThat makes sense, I wasn’t calling you out or anything of course. I agree with you completely that it’s not team orientated at all, and does promote lone wolfism. This is the first BF game where I haven’t had a ton of clan mates to play with. 1 dropped off from 4, V basically tanked after 1, and with the inability to join servers and squad up with buddies, there are only 3 out of the old ATF clan playing 2042. I think we have more players still in 1942 than we do with 2042. BF was always great for playing with friends. Not anymore. Hear me Dice?? The spirit of BattleField is dead.
