it still very buggy still has hackersPC have an advantage over consoleyou play a full game, and you get thrown. into an empty lobbyand yes i got a refund from Microsoft after all this time

@Netranger9the core of the game is broken with very little balance and terrible map designs.Specialists, especially Mackay and Sundance broke the BF formula and made the gameplay too randomized.Arguably the worst net code ever designed for an FPS. We have hit reg issues 2 years post-launch.45Hz servers in 2023, soon to be 2024 is borderline criminal at this point.Quick Play and matchmaking is the only method to join a game, that works great for a Battle Royale game, but not for BF. A Server Browser is a must.Launched in 2021, and still in 2023, very little destruction and levelution, which was a hallmark of previous BF games.Player movement is still clunky, you can't swim underwater, don't try to move backwards when prone, how about leaning? Nah, that was so 2013. Let me sidestep slowly into view to be aim-assisted to death and killed behind cover. Some actions take so long to complete that you are dead before you can even complete them. Oh, there is a one-foot high bump, impossible for a human to jump that, let's do a delayed climbing animation so I can be shot while looking cool.Vehicle physics are still way off, like we are fighting on another planet where everything is floaty with less gravity. A small little rock can stop a tank going full speed like it hit a brick wall or launch you 30 feet in the air.Mouse input is still delayed, and from the sounds of it, on purpose. There is better mouse response in PowerPoint than in an FPS, and some things are impacted on the server side which is mind-boggling.Again no different than any other BF game.Oh I almost forgot the least amount of content for any BF title, the fewest weapons, vehicles, and maps, which is the content we pay for. The game was the most expensive of any title, yet we got the least amount of "game" in the series. Go figure, almost like they only exist to make the biggest profit possible with the lowest amount of overhead.

@Adamonic You summed it up super well. They have ample time and opportunity to learn from the mistakes made with 2042 if they choose to listen (no bets on that). Crossplay has to be an option, not a requirement. PC players think consoles have an advantage, and vice versa, the only fix is to revert to crossplay off as default for whatever game they make next. It’s a failed experiment as they suck at it. If they’ve adjusted a mouse to be worse just to provide consoles with an advantage rather than give them M&K ability, then they can kiss my grits. There’s a growing group of crossplay off players for the PC and the game players pretty smooth as long as they’re in region. So many lessons for Dice…

It definitely is the worst BF in the franchise out of the titles I've played (BF1942, BF3, BF4, BF1 and BFV). I think @Adamonic summarized it pretty well. The whole specialist concept is completely out of tune with what Battlefield used to be, and solely implemented to sell cosmetics. Meanwhile the lack of proper content (Maps, weapons, vehicles, NOT SKINS) at this point also makes this title the worst in the franchise. Just give us back premium and seasonal DLC with 4 new maps and other content, I'll pay for that, I won't pay for any cosmetics!I have switched crossplay off at PS5, and that should be a default for any platform! That experiment failed miserably and crossplay should only be an option to those who want to play with friends on different platforms. Otherwise everybody should be kept within their own eco-system to keep things fair.We need a server browser and persistent servers that play a map rotation, not this quickmatch principle currently present in the game.All in all, I will not pre-order or order the next BF at launch. Only when user reviews after launch are positive I will buy.

I don't know about worst in the series "Hardline I'm looking at you" but is incredibly poor for a company who used to put out good games.

@ATFGunrI think that we have seen that there are server-side mouse settings from the last patch. I can see no other reason there would be these settings unless they are trying to make console players even with M&K players and that really bites!Cross play off should be the default setting but here we sit with this monstrosity.And they still haven fixed the mouse mushiness.So sad.

Battlefield 2042 is still the worst game in the franchise.

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ATFGunr
Legend
2 years ago
@Adamonic You summed it up super well. They have ample time and opportunity to learn from the mistakes made with 2042 if they choose to listen (no bets on that). Crossplay has to be an option, not a requirement. PC players think consoles have an advantage, and vice versa, the only fix is to revert to crossplay off as default for whatever game they make next. It’s a failed experiment as they suck at it. If they’ve adjusted a mouse to be worse just to provide consoles with an advantage rather than give them M&K ability, then they can kiss my grits. There’s a growing group of crossplay off players for the PC and the game players pretty smooth as long as they’re in region. So many lessons for Dice…
sk1lld
Legend
2 years ago
@ATFGunr

I think that we have seen that there are server-side mouse settings from the last patch. I can see no other reason there would be these settings unless they are trying to make console players even with M&K players and that really bites!

Cross play off should be the default setting but here we sit with this monstrosity.

And they still haven fixed the mouse mushiness.

So sad.
ATFGunr
Legend
2 years ago
@sk1lld I hadn't read about the mouse settings server side until Anobix's comment earlier. My mind is still a little blown tbh. All we can do is express our displeasure with our wallets with the new game. Pre-sales should be the first sign that all the players are sending a message. Let's hope that both parties (devs and players) make smart choices for the next game.
RanzigeRidder2
Legend
2 years ago
It definitely is the worst BF in the franchise out of the titles I've played (BF1942, BF3, BF4, BF1 and BFV).

I think @Adamonic summarized it pretty well. The whole specialist concept is completely out of tune with what Battlefield used to be, and solely implemented to sell cosmetics. Meanwhile the lack of proper content (Maps, weapons, vehicles, NOT SKINS) at this point also makes this title the worst in the franchise. Just give us back premium and seasonal DLC with 4 new maps and other content, I'll pay for that, I won't pay for any cosmetics!

I have switched crossplay off at PS5, and that should be a default for any platform! That experiment failed miserably and crossplay should only be an option to those who want to play with friends on different platforms. Otherwise everybody should be kept within their own eco-system to keep things fair.
We need a server browser and persistent servers that play a map rotation, not this quickmatch principle currently present in the game.

All in all, I will not pre-order or order the next BF at launch. Only when user reviews after launch are positive I will buy.
RayD_O1
Hero
2 years ago
@RanzigeRidder2
You nailed it 100%. 👍
I would welcome the return of the Premium Pass, worth every penny imho.
I play with crossplay off PC.
pickpickdxd23
2 years ago
@Anobix As a vehicle main i dont like lis g84 gtm INSANE RANGE OF 475m controllable missile which is UNLIMITED and more than 5 players have equiped. Sundance for the obvious c5 and wingsuit mackay cause he has the best opportunity for flanks on tanks AND infatry. Rao many might say is also bad but the range is 90 for a hack so the only bad is about critical damage being done and unlimited quick regeneration of the hack - might not be true- and also completely IMMOBILIZES THE MAV like it cant move for 10+ seconds i think and IMAGINE caspers drone which emps vehicles and if no on takes it out it can just completely immobilize tanks and mavs from moving
JOGAGATYA
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@RanzigeRidder2 I think not preordering is wise but also dangerous to listen to reviews. I would have missed 2 years of fun on BF2042 if listening to people on youtube. This game was solid on PlayStation from the beginning.
Too many people can be influenced easily. Especially the young minds. Friend's opinions are more important than their own.
RanzigeRidder2
Legend
2 years ago
@JOGAGATYAWith user reviews I'm not referring to the biased opinions of YouTubers, especially not those who are part of the EA Creator network. And there's others who build their channel around constant being negative, I take their opinion with a grain of salt too.
I always check reviews from multiple sources, for example via Metacritic.
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@JOGAGATYAIt seems like nearly every YouTuber gets on the same trend. For example last week it was “The Finals”, which is a pretty solid game to be fair, but it’s definitely not for everyone. They’re all acting like it’s reinventing shooters or something.

The esports aspect of it will likely kill it off pretty quickly in my opinion. It has a lot of neat ideas, but there’s too much going on. Once all the streamer and the sweatiest of try-hards get a feel for it, they’ll just dominate every match. Idk about you guys, but I could care less then ever about being competitive or esports.
OskooI_007
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
I base all my buying decisions on the beta. I consider it to represent how the final game will play.
There's also Xbox Game Pass and EA Play subscriptions you can buy for a month to rent games before buying them.
I'm a big game rental fan. I remember when there used to be movie and game rental stores on street corners. I've rented tons of video games and movies over the years. 🙂

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