Vehicles are more fun when aiming and shootingBetter maps and destruction than 2042. You can easy go from one flag to another and you can make the difference in gameClasses are classic similar to previous bf gamesBattlelog to easy connect/ creating teams/ chat and invite friends on games. Also lot of statsHardcore preset serversDedicated serversCommunities.Only zouzou jump to remove and we have the 10/10 gamei can pay 10x more for a new bf4 game.

@alucardgr all we true BF fans need are reskin and improve of BF4.@NiCeDiCe90, BF3 is really better in map (level) design, but BF4 is improvement of all the rest. It has tons of content (customization, modes, servers presets, even commander mode) and has everything BF player needs.

They should've just looked at BF4 post launch and thought to themselves "Hey, let's make a more refined version of that! I think that's what the fans have been asking for!"But no, they had to rush development, add hero-type specialists, notch down the destruction capabilities, remove basic features of an FPS (leaning, scoreboards, incoming medics). I'm fully aware one of those things are in the patch notes for after Thanksgiving, but why has it become standard to release an unfinished game, DICE? Or EA? Please listen to community feedback, but furthermore, and much more important to your game's and studio's success, keep consistent communication and open up playtests sooner so we can provide constructive feedback before you're too deep in development for features to change for the better! Take some notes on the indie development scene. At the least they are clear when a game is in early access, and sometimes their games are in EA for quite some time before even a beta is announced. Why hasn't anyone taken this approach at DICE? Why are we getting a "beta" a month before a delayed launch? Week long early access, literally a week before official launch? What the hell is this? I have followed this franchise for quite some time, and I love the games DICE has produced when done well, even with the launch issues having been there from the past. But everything I just said, and every piece of criticism coming from fans this time around needs to be not only taken into consideration but actually utilized in the future, for the development team's sake and the people who'd like to keep buying your games.At this point I have no logical reason to believe this franchise will comeback from these mistakes they've made over and over again. It's time to prove your worth to the community and your stakeholders. When you have your biggest competitor, Call of Duty, doing some things arguably better than your studio has been known for, that should be a huge red flag for future of the studio. Get it together DICE, please. I say all of this because I want nothing more than for this franchise to succeed where it's succeeded in the past and make efforts to bring new people in. Just stop dropping the games identity for the sake of trend chasing. We can see it, it's abundantly clear and unfavorable for those who've stuck around this long. I wish you luck in your improvements as a studio.

I hopped on yesterday to see how the servers were doing, what a surprise to see so many full servers on PC. I joined a lobby and played a full match. By the end, I realized just how much 2042 is not BF. I mean it's not even the same identity anymore. BF2042 should have been a totally new IP all together, it's not BF. No matter what the fix in the game, its core is and will always be rotten.

Whilst I am not defending some of the design decisions or exonerating DICE over some of the bugs and issues etc but.....I think it is rediculous to compare games that have completed their life cycle in terms of DLC and extra content, had umpteen patches to fix bugs and glitches with a game that has only been out for 2 weeks!

Battlefield 4 still the best unfortunately

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ArchAngeL-PCX
4 years ago
@TankerFlanker Yeah the Season Pass no doubt was a superior concept over live service...at least EA/DICE's implementation of live service anyway. Season Pass locked them into meeting DLC deadlines, and it also meant that they had to be on point at launch with DLC development already well in hand. They usually would drop the first DLC pack a month or so after launch in Season Passes.

So we've had two live service games from EA/DICE, both cancelled. Neither had remotely close to the same post-launch content a season pass brought:

- Battlefront 2 cancelled after just over 2 years of support.
- BFV after just over 1 year of support.

Seems like the standard release cadence to me, just without the DLC obligation. So what does live service even mean to EA/DICE? For other games it's years of support.
Tank2042Man
4 years ago
@ArchAngeL-PCX

Maybe BF4 will turn out to be better than 2042 once 2042 is fully polished but it's still just an opinion.

I like them all, but the last thing I wanted was a reskinned BF4.
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@alucardgr I’ve tried to go back and play both BF3&4 and I just don’t enjoy those games that much anymore. BF4 is a spam fest a lot of rounds and its harder to see people in that game.

BFV feels way more modern with its movement and the balancing is on point.

In BF2042 one squad cannot control the entire map. You have to choose what points you’re going to play around for the match. Then next time you play that map you can try a different area. It gives the maps more replay value. Also there’s double the amount of people on the map. It’s going to play different.

Hopefully in the future they release some smaller infantry based maps.

I’m having a lot of fun in 2042, a lot more than trying to play BF4 again.
TankerFlanker
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Tank2042Man I guess until DICE realize this game isn't good, even though they have the apologist like you to make them think it is, so probably awhile newbie.
snakeeyes00
New Vanguard
4 years ago
IMO - Every BF title before 2042 had something to offer that the others didn't. Too bad DICE didn't try to take the best features from BC2, BF3, BF4, BF1 & BV5 and go from there.
Classes should not have been removed - it's part of the core that made Battlefield - Battlefield. They could have easily added the specialist gadgets to the list of already available gadgets and it would be the same. They still could have sold skins for vehicles, weapons and solders. Could have even done it with the battlepass and still make out.
Several of the advance movement features from BF1 & 5 using the same & newer vehicles from BC2, BF3&4 along with the classes from BF4 and maybe add a 5th class - specialist with unique weapons. Restricted of course because you don't want everyone playing them at the same time. No med or ammo bag for example.
Increase squads to 8 for increased team play for those with lots of friends or Clan groups. Clans, another thing that should not have been removed.
I don't know if there is limitations with this new engine or it's the 128 player count as for the reason so many features are missing. I for one was hoping for a return to BF4 on the newer engine. Especially after BF1 & 5 titles, as were a lot of people. I know not everyone, but many in the community were originally hoping for Bad Company 3 or similar style game.
The Dev's are subject to the decisions of the Execs. So lets try not blame them too much. I just think they could have made a much better game that a lot of people were hoping for.
BF 2042 is fine as a FPS but it lacks too much from the previous titles to be really called Battlefield. Again this is only my opinion and if your really enjoy the 2042 I'm happy for you. Just don't be surprised if the player count diminishes and you find yourself playing against more bots because they can't fill a 128 player server.
foff667
4 years ago
BF4 is definitely the best in my heart.
BF1 grew on me over time and is my 2nd favorite
everything else is just ho hum...keep in mind I'm a console player so BF3 wasn't all that great on console. BFV was and is a very buggy game and 2042 looks like they stole alot of the bugs from BFV but stole very little of the good stuff from it.
For 2042 being a follow up or continuation of the BF4 story its pretty garbage if you ask me. You'd think they would've started with the weapons and vehicles from bf4 as their base and worked from there...but hey what do I know I'm just the guy that pays for the game and then sinks 2000hrs of my life into it.
FlibberMeister
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
I’d have paid £60+ for new maps, updated graphics and, I can’t believe I’m saying this, more classes or specialist to an updated BF4 or bf4 dlc.

instead I bought bf2042 and got…….
warriorjoy
4 years ago
Agreed
HillbillyJohn
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
@2042isNotBF I absolutely agree, I played BFV yesterday and realized with all it's flaws it's still better than 2042.
ujpkyd932pz9
4 years ago
Honestly I think it 234 and one are good.

Feels like you’re trying to force the narrative of girls
One easy way to solve this would be have the option of all soldiers to flip back-and-forth between male and female. And so if you want to play girl you can but you’re not forced to.

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