Borg Technology needs to go

@Echo6Echo Please don't use today's real life stuff to a video game. This isn't Mil-Sim.

So the realistic weapons, some technology, historical maps, etc isnt RL?  These guns we use dont exist?   This is about selecting what RL to bring in the game.   That being said, Borg Regeneration isnt RL at all.

Air>Armor>Ground

I get that, and nowhere am I suggesting we 1 shot them.

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@Padding_Ur_Stats wrote:

@Echo6EchoPlease don't use today's real life stuff to a video game. This isn't Mil-Sim.

So the realistic weapons, some technology, historical maps, etc isnt RL?  These guns we use dont exist?   This is about selecting what RL to bring in the game.   That being said, Borg Regeneration isnt RL at all.

Air>Armor>Ground

I get that, and nowhere am I suggesting we 1 shot them.

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Come one now! You just said in your previous post:

"Why, it takes 4 rockets.   Usually, the target finds you and kills you anyway.  This is the first time I have been able to focus so many on a target (I was up on the side of a cliff).   In 2022, 1 soldier can take out a tank with a rocket, why not in 2042?

What’s the point of a giant steel beast if it can get taken out by tiny rockets?

Better ask todays military because this isnt future tech."

Check the section in blue. I'm not saying realistic stuff in a game is bad, but not all realism is good. Again, listen to what I'm saying here...A DETERMINED LONER CAN SOMETIMES TAKE OUT A TANK ALONE, BUT NOT ALWAYS. It's how this TEAM BASED game is designed. If the driver is saavy, he can evade you. Not saying that a tweak may not be needed, but for heaven's sake not to the point that one person can consistently take on a tank by himself without a vehicle. 

@Padding_Ur_Stats I did read your post and bottom line is that you are mad because you cant solo kill a MAV with Lis G-84.

As I said no infantry should be able to solo kill vehicles in a team oriented game without having to take some risk or give the vehicle a way to defend against the attack.

Its no point to argue that you used 6 rockets because thats takes a long time and any vehicle should be able to recover during such time span for obvious balancing reasons

When I said in a short time its because thats what you (and others complaining about the same thing) wants to do. You just want to shoot your 2 rockets from a safe distance, get the kill and move on. 

@3DiE9djua2 I did read your post and bottom line is that you are mad because you cant solo kill a MAV with Lis G-84.

What difference does it make if the 6 missiles come from 2 players, 3 players or 1?

As I said no infantry should be able to solo kill vehicles in a team oriented game without having to take some risk or give the vehicle a way to defend against the attack.

I disagree.  You make the statement like it is a fact, and it isnt.  It is your opinion, and you are welcome to it, I just disagree.   If it takes 5 missiles from Lis to do destructive damage, it shouldnt matter if they are from 1 Lis or 2.   My issue is with Mechanical regeneration.  Just hide and your back to full!   BRILLIANT!

Its no point to argue that you used 6 rockets because thats takes a long time and any vehicle should be able to recover during such time span for obvious balancing reasons

In other words, you have no argument.    Vehicles should have 2 repair options.  The onboard regen which has a cooldown and players with tools.   Hiding around a corner should not regenerate the vehicles health.

When I said in a short time its because thats what you (and others complaining about the same thing) wants to do. You just want to shoot your 2 rockets from a safe distance, get the kill and move on.

Again, it was 6 rockets.  I have never said that I should shoot two and epeen.   You're attempting to misrepresent my post.   Dont put words in my posts that I have not said.   Second, there is no safe distance.    In my time playing Lis, I have only once (this engagement) lived long enough to shoot and guide that many rockets.    Most of the time the Armor sees me and kills me, or someone sees me while I am guiding the missile. 

Your obvious lack of experience with Lis bleeds into your response.   There is no safe distance.    How about I put words in your post

You just want to pilot armor that cannot be destroyed and fire your never ending ammo into destinations and epeens your chart topping skill.  See, that does nothing to help the conversation.  So why dont you stick to your reply, rather then projecting what I want. 

Try using Sundance…Armor Vehicles are my specialty. 

@Padding_Ur_Stats Are you really asking what the difference between 1 and 6 players shooting at the MAV is? Let me spoon feed it to you. 6 persons can shoot 6 rockets at the same time while 1 person can only shoot 1 rocket. Thats 6 times the damage in the same amount of time. Is that clear enough for you?

And its not just my opinion that 1 player shouldnt be able to solo kill a tank from a safe distance. Its been like that in every game since Battlefield 1942. It's called game balance. 

I have played Lis enough to know you can safely shoot G-84's on vehicles without risking anything other than being sniped if you are stupid enough to stand in the open. If you dont know this then you should work on your in-game tactics instead of whining here. 

And using your logic then Lis should have only two ammo reload options for G-84, ammo box and supply crates. No auto reload over time. And while we're at it. Lets remove health regen for infantry as well and only have medic box and Falck to heal. I mean why should an infantry just hide and regen? Why arent you complaining about that?

If you dont understand why its needed to have this system in this game, where every single infantry can spawn with anti tank weapons, then I suggest you start playing vehicles for a while. Maybe you will understand how easy vehicles are taken out and see that the regen in this game is needed to give vehicles a chance to have a role.

And this is coming from someone who are hunting vehicles as infantry. 

I'm not putting words into your post. You are the one who started a thread complaining about how you couldnt solo kill a MAV with G-84. Whether its 2 or 6 rockets doesnt really matter because the essence is that you want to solo kill vehicles with Lis. 

Same thing with ammo. Return to airfield buzz the strip / helo pad for reloading ammo. in what dumb world is there infinite ammo. It makes dogfighting extremely easy to corner. Just have a far enough approach distance they can't break los / lock and you win. There's no chaffing their load, no out maneuvering them. it's just dumb point and click.

@3DiE9djua2Are you really asking what the difference between 1 and 6 players shooting at the MAV is? Let me spoon feed it to you. 6 persons can shoot 6 rockets at the same time while 1 person can only shoot 1 rocket. Thats 6 times the damage in the same amount of time. Is that clear enough for you?

Im not sure if youre being purposely obtuse or you just dont get it.  You tried to spoon feed and yet, you missed my mouth.   Well, Im a good guy, you tried to spoon feed me, I will do the same.   If both examples hit with 6 missiles, the damage is the same.   So what is the difference?  (Play Jeopardy Theme Song Here).   Its teh Borg like Regen all vehicles have that is absolutely moronic.

And its not just my opinion that 1 player shouldnt be able to solo kill a tank from a safe distance. Its been like that in every game since Battlefield 1942. It's called game balance.

You keep saying safe distance.   It isnt safe my friend.   While I am guiding the missile, I am kill bait from anyone.   Just because you keep repeating it, doesnt make it true.   And it isnt balance.  In fact, it is just the opposite.  

I have played Lis enough to know you can safely shoot G-84's on vehicles without risking anything other than being sniped if you are stupid enough to stand in the open. If you dont know this then you should work on your in-game tactics instead of whining here.

LOL, sure you have.   People arent mobile.  They never run up on you.  Lis's missiles have range so you do have to position yourself within that range.   Nice try but you just basically proved you havent played Lis enough.   Nobody uses SOFLAM or Drones to highlight you anymore.   You are so out of touch with infantry.  Additionally, when you fire, you show up on every radar, plus everyone sees the missile origination, who is looking.

And using your logic then Lis should have only two ammo reload options for G-84, ammo box and supply crates. No auto reload over time. And while we're at it. Lets remove health regen for infantry as well and only have medic box and Falck to heal. I mean why should an infantry just hide and regen? Why arent you complaining about that?

Actually, I agree with the player health regen you propose.  That makes Falck useful.  It also means you have to consider the gadget that heals.  Glad we could agree on something.  I play on private servers where we play that way.  Youre getting it!  Borg Regeneration = Bad.

If you dont understand why its needed to have this system in this game, where every single infantry can spawn with anti tank weapons, then I suggest you start playing vehicles for a while. Maybe you will understand how easy vehicles are taken out and see that the regen in this game is needed to give vehicles a chance to have a role.

It isnt needed.   Vehicles own this game.   Take a hit, hide, regen.  Every good pilot knows and does this.  If youre getting farmed in armor, the issue is you, not the missiles.

And this is coming from someone who are hunting vehicles as infantry.

Sure you are. Wink Wink, Nudge Nudge, Say No More Say No More.  For someone who claims to be feet on the ground, you sure have a lack of knowledge about playing Lis.

I'm not putting words into your post. You are the one who started a thread complaining about how you couldnt solo kill a MAV with G-84.

Actually, you are.  In numerous posts you insisted 2 rockets and I never said 2.

Whether its 2 or 6 rockets doesnt really matter because the essence is that you want to solo kill vehicles with Lis.

And here it is again.   It does matter.  It is 300% more damage.   Youre basically saying I can sink 50 rockets into one vehicle, but hey, youre solo so it doesnt blow up.   You logic is horrendously flawed.   This last statement shows youre a pilot.  Im sorry I am asking for you to be a better pilot.