Boris turret is useless.
Boris turret is pointless. It takes an eternity to start shooting yet stops almost instantly. If about as durable as a paper bag in a lite shower of rain. A mean what’s the point in playing him?? Oh ...
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I think that too many people play BF now thinking that it’s a solo Player on Player game, and to be honest I’ve always considered BF to be more of a strategic shooter, than death match shooter.
as such, for me the turret should be formidable, I should be able to lock down an avenue of approach with it. And it should be difficult to deal with. requiring a rock paper scissor type solution to deal with. I.e it could be hacked, or approached with a shield, or perhaps it’s field of view could be limited.
of course everyone wants to be able to solo BF now so of course it gets nerfed. Anything that takes more than looking at to kill is too much for a lot of players apparently.
BF has become so dull to play.
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- @Tank2042Man It does need a balance between performance and the stats required for T1. It did need a nerf when the game was new, and as usual they swung it too far. Usually that gets a slight buff back once it’s realized it’s too far, which never happened in this case. If it wasn’t a challenge, I’d have probably not cared. Now I remember how bad the turret is and I care again lol.
People talk like this turret somehow moves and engages you lol, it takes YOU to trigger it so maybe people should take a look around.
The run and gun cod players can’t be having someone actually using tactics and placing a turret in a good tactical spot!
It takes something like a 800% damage server for this turret to be threatening.
Meanwhile the Crawford turret can even be used as makeshift cover from the holes of which you can snipe though instead of manning the turret.
- @emerson1975 The irony is the Boris auto-turret is the only item I've found to slow down the "COD run and gun" type you mentioned in TDM from running constant circular flanks in groups of 2 and 4 and steam rolling solo players who don't have three mates 24/7 to watch their back and revive them, etc.
Ironic how some gamers call the auto-turret a "crutch" as they run the maps with 2-3 buddies 3 feet from them at all times. The ultimate challenge is playing solo, usually forced on a substantial number of gamers due to responsibilities from the game of life. Dice hurt solo players by nerfing Boris into oblivion...as nothing else can watch your back other than robo-puppy...
I got Boris to T1 pre-nerf, and even though it is cool that almost nobody has the black helmet and outfit, it really isn't fair for those who want it now as it was not easy to T1 Boris pre-nerf, and will take forever now.
For example, I T1ed both stealth helis in less than three weeks, T1 bolte in less than two weeks. T1 50 cal sniper in less than one week. But Boris took 3 months and it was painful and took some tactics and deep thinking on my part as to how to deploy it effectively. I'd write a tips and tricks for players but due to the super nerf, it would not help.
Dice knows Boris needs some attention so I suspect some small buffs are coming, else they need to reduce the requirements for T1 to make it fair... All this talk about it being an "aim bot" and a "crutch" or "cheat" or whatever IMO is horse puckey. It spots one person on the mini map, (not wall hacked) and then takes an eternity to fire at that person and does little to no damage. Ok so it spots you...big freakin deal. There are 10000000 ways to get spotted in this game. No one is railing to nerf Casper and he can have the entire enemy team spotted at once. Those that are yelling about the spotting ability being OP are probably the ones running and gunning and getting spotted and slowed down or killed. If spotting one person ON THE MINI MAP is OP, then you all better stop firing your weapons in game. That's OP too because it spots you and Casper has zero chance. The truth is that probably a large percentage of your deaths are happening when you're spotted in some way or another...
The real issue here is that it takes an act of congress to get any damage with it and it'll be 2042 before you can get him to T1...
@emerson1975 wrote:People talk like this turret somehow moves and engages you lol, it takes YOU to trigger it so maybe people should take a look around.
The run and gun cod players can’t be having someone actually using tactics and placing a turret in a good tactical spot!
And you talk like the turret is highlighted and easy to spot
It's definitly not
This isn't a tacitcal shooter, clearing every single angle is impossible
Stop trying to get the game to play itself for you and actually use your gun
@Echo6Echo wrote:All this talk about it being an "aim bot" and a "crutch" or "cheat" or whatever IMO is horse puckey. It spots one person on the mini map, (not wall hacked) and then takes an eternity to fire at that person and does little to no damage. Ok so it spots you...big freakin deal. There are 10000000 ways to get spotted in this game. No one is railing to nerf Casper and he can have the entire enemy team spotted at once. Those that are yelling about the spotting ability being OP are probably the ones running and gunning and getting spotted and slowed down or killed. If spotting one person ON THE MINI MAP is OP, then you all better stop firing your weapons in game. That's OP too because it spots you and Casper has zero chance. The truth is that probably a large percentage of your deaths are happening when you're spotted in some way or another...
The real issue here is that it takes an act of congress to get any damage with it and it'll be 2042 before you can get him to T1...
It's literally a crutch
Doesn't matter that right now it's bad, it's still a crutch
There's literally someone in this thread saying it's his only way to fight against squads of people in deathmatch, it's literally free HP, damage and info, how is that not a crutch?
Stop generalising people who don't like playing against a turret
Otherwise I should just explain how freaking braindead you people are for wanting the turret buffed
Comparing it to the Casper drone is straight up stupid, if everyone would play casper and play in their drone all game you will lose the game, if everyone plays Boris and place their turret and camp next to it they have a pretty good chance of winning especially on breakthrough defense. Also you actually need human inputs for the drone, the turret is ALWAYS watching and WILL spot you no matter how sneaky you are if you are in 65m range of the turret
If the problem is the mastery they should change the mastery, not make the game a chore to play so that acheivement hunters can feel proud of themselves for literally letting the game play itself
The people in this thread need to get a grip on reality, stop crying and get good
The turret is simply a * idea to put in an FPS like battlefield and anyone who doesn't recognize this is stupid
@InS_Hypno Thanks for your response. I won't debate this further with you because, yet again, as usual, you can't debate. You always personally attack and insult anyone who doesn't follow your exact line of thinking. Have a nice day or what's left of it. Peace out...
- @InS_Hypno Lol it’s a squad based team game primarily that involves defending and attacking and believe it or not plenty of us actually try and use tactics!
People like yourself just seemingly want to run around and press the shoot button…..there’s a game for that called COD
@emerson1975 wrote:
@InS_HypnoLol it’s a squad based team game primarily that involves defending and attacking and believe it or not plenty of us actually try and use tactics!
People like yourself just seemingly want to run around and press the shoot button…..there’s a game for that called CODYeah it's a squad based game yet you want to literally need no one to watch your flank or back you up, you want the game to do that by itself. Softening enemies for you and putting them directly into your mouth like a literal baby
To be honest since that time you argued Paik shouldn't be nerfed I hold your opinion as being worthless
- @InS_Hypno If you’re getting wrecked by turrets maybe you should start looking at your own play style and stop blaming everything else!
And yes paik should not of been nerfed just because her ability suited one map!
@emerson1975 wrote:
@InS_HypnoIf you’re getting wrecked by turrets maybe you should start looking at your own play style and stop blaming everything else!
And yes paik should not of been nerfed just because her ability suited one map!No where did I say I'm getting wrecked by turrets
Turrets on their own are and always will be nothing else than an annoyance unless the devs are dumb
It starts being really annoying when there are people next to the turret, for now it's manageable since there's a long enough delay to kill a player and the turret before taking damage but if that is no longer the case after the buff the turret will become the ultimate crutch
Maybe you stop relying on the game holding your hand and get good
No Mortars
No Claymores
Useless turret
No suppression
SMGs that are on the whole, better than any other class of weapons.
All so that the cryhard headless chickens can tryhard and boast about their epeens whilst turning the game into Team Death Match Conquest Large.
They have successfully sucked a lot of fun out of the game.....
Thank the Gods I used Boris first!
@Trokey66 wrote:No Mortars
No Claymores
Useless turret
No suppression
SMGs that are on the whole, better than any other class of weapons.
All so that the cryhard headless chickens can tryhard and boast about their epeens whilst turning the game into Team Death Match Conquest Large.
They have successfully sucked a lot of fun out of the game.....
Thank the Gods I used Boris first!
Oh no you are actually required to use your gun and hit your shots
What a tragedy
- @emerson1975 Paiks ability shouldnt exist in the first place in an online fps shooter.
It defeats the purpose of having awareness by simply highlighting every enemy arround you, even of those you possibly couldn’t know of that they are here.
An automated turret in an fps is negotiable at best (still stupid tbh) but an Wallhack ? Get outa here. Turret killed me yesterday
@InS_HypnoYour inability to think beyond 'point and click' is the real tragedy.
This thought process is turning Battlefield increasingly 1 dimensional and boring.I should add that there is to much gadget spotting in this game mind.....
- @Bolvard Paiks ability was just fine and you do realise turrets have been in fps games well before 2042?
People here are talking as if battlefield is some sort of pro esports game or something lol it’s an arcade team game plain and simple! @emerson1975 Paiks ability was never fine, not one single second, doesn’t matter at launch, after the buff and after the nerf.
Wallhacks simply don’t belong in PvP shooters, the advantage gain by this is enormous and have to much impact in gameplay
The few months where paik was buffed clearly showed this, in every game there where atleast 20 paiks who constantly spotted all enemys in the area, approaching objectives where nearly impossible, let alone defend objectives.
just look at this, first 14 with the only exception of me and IgNaZ+ fluffymlg who revived where paik players, you can clearly see that in the assists.
this was 2 weeks after S2 launch, it was way worse the first week.
Im gonna stand at this, Wallhacks doesn’t belong in an FPS game, no matter what.
- @Trokey66 Yep all they have done is turn an already generic game into just a 128 player team death match bore fest!
At least turrets in the beginning gave you something to at least think about now it’s just four bullets and it’s done! @BolvardIt’s because Paiks ability suited the new map and nothing more.
All the other maps are so open she’s useless
- @Trokey66 I don't think the Turret adds anything in regard to making BF2042 into a more interesting game, as it requires absolutely no gameplay engagement from the user.
I know Mortars had a mixed reception amongst the community, but at least they had to be manually aimed, the user was also utterly vulnerable when firing and even popped up on the mini map.
Suppression to me also added an extra layer of depth to the gunplay and also obviously required gameplay engagement.
I'm the epitome of a casual player but I still think the Turret is a bad mechanic. The less it impacts gameplay the better 2042 is as an experience for all involved.
Agree on the spotting though. As someone who has been slowly working my way through each specialist to get T1, i can confidently say I am not looking forward to doing Boris.
Dozer was a royal pain, but with BT on Stranded it made it much easier (enclosed spaces, no vehicles to contend with)
Pretty sure I will leave Boris to the end, having tried it a few times post-nerf, i can see it taking an eternity to complete.
