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MINE_WhiteApe
Rising Traveler
4 years ago

Breakthrough (defense) - unbalanced

Hello Fellow Condorians, 

Just finished the most infuriating game of breakthrough, and only played this mode due to conquest lobbies being quiet. I'd like to see some major changes to this game mode to help balance it overall. 

- Defense does not get enough vehicles or ways to defend

- Defense loses nearly every match

- Attackers get more air assets than defense

What is being done to address this, it is beyond rediculous at this point.

18 Replies

  • TheBassProShop's avatar
    TheBassProShop
    Seasoned Veteran
    4 years ago

    @protoman23 wrote:

    @InS_Hypno wrote:

    @protoman23 wrote:

    it's funny how these complaints about BT never really existed in the 128 version of the mode back when defenders had one less of every vehicle compared to the attacking team. 


    Breakthrough 128 was very unbalanced

    The most balanced breakthrough has been is when it was only on the 64 man layout.

    They just needed to nerf the Hind/Condor properly and I think breakthrough would've been in a good place but no instead we get the * 128 layouts and more vehicles on defense which just makes the game mode worse because vehicle players ( especially choppers ) just ignore each other and farm infantry


    64 players BT has never been balanced. It's the sole reason why there's so many complaints about aircraft dominating infantry. The old 128 player layouts were more balanced seeing as defenders actually could contest the skies and stop armor advances.


    You are remembering pretty bad 128 player defense way worse than 64

    I literally refused to play defense on 128 players but don't have a lot of issues in 64 other than the choppers being OP but they are just as OP in 128

  • RMEChief's avatar
    RMEChief
    Legend
    4 years ago

    I find it funny that both teams spawn at the same time away from the objectives, so the initial defense is not even set up yet when the attackers arrive. 

    If they rush the first sector immediately, it is an easy cap.


    The lack of aircraft for the defense is mind boggling.

  • Bolvard's avatar
    Bolvard
    4 years ago
    @Lanc3_B0yL3s + you have to deal with atleast 2 specialists who literally doesn’t give a flying * about mapdesign so they can pop up everywhere… literally.
  • Anobix's avatar
    Anobix
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @Adamonic wrote:

    I find it funny that both teams spawn at the same time away from the objectives, so the initial defense is not even set up yet when the attackers arrive. 

    If they rush the first sector immediately, it is an easy cap.


    The lack of aircraft for the defense is mind boggling.


    Yep, absolutely bananas.

    I can understand the defense not having a transport (aka flying fortress...) for a HIND/Condor due to the nature of the location, but to not have any air vehicles at all is just terrible design. Either the maps were bad enough that they couldn't be balanced/placed to properly have air vehicles on either side, or the vehicles were too overpowered for what they needed to do. But when defenders have at most a LAT/Hovercraft vs tanks/choppers/transports and some poorly guarded area it is just a bad feeling all around. 

  • Let's face it, 50% of the issue is that most of the team could give two poops about the objective and only worried about a few things:

    1. Getting as many kills with their sniper rifle as possible without getting killed

    2. Working on a mastery badge for their favorite character

    3. Working on that mission for the battle pass.

    Everything else including reviving you while standing on top of you or clearing the objective doesn't matter at all.

  • Defense does not lose almost every match.  This was not true when 128 breakthrough was in the game and it is not true now.  Pay attention to what your team is not doing during the match.  That is typically the reason why you lose.  

  • I never see any air vehicles available while playing as defender. No sectors have them available, but yet I see friendly air vehicles flying around....

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