Based on the video demoing the commorose, I have some feedback to Devs.Communication should not prevent other basic simultaneous activity, like walking/running/crawling. for the PlusMenu, that is fine as you "would be" focusing on finding the right attachment and attaching it, but for the comms, those are replacement for vocal commands and communication for those unable to use VoIP, and should be as quick and fluent as possible.Not too sure about the block design of the comm tiles, as the ones in the middle are much easier to reach than those in the corners.Have they considered a hexagon format for these? Perhaps this is related to working better to gamepads?https://youtu.be/F7mv-GvwFaoEdit: added link to video.

@TrasteTh I get what you're saying but the Commrose layout has been different in some aspect in just about every Battlefield game and players adjusted. I have no doubt they will do the same here and who knows, maybe they will implement a config option or make adjustments to it based on feedback once the game is out.

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lookcr
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@TrasteTh I m Designer and console player, for me based on prev experiences this format looks more easy to choice, in others i dont like wheel format because in the options in angules is hard to select and stay with analogic, maybe the size has influence, let see how works, squares take more space and help the selection in theory, i know have others aspects such deadzone for exemple but in first overview for me looks good
ragnarok013
Hero+
4 years ago
@lookcr wrote:
@TrasteTh I m Designer and console player, for me based on prev experiences this format looks more easy to choice, in others i dont like wheel format because in the options in angules is hard to select and stay with analogic, maybe the size has influence, let see how works, squares take more space and help the selection in theory, i know have others aspects such deadzone for exemple but in first overview for me looks good

@lookcr taking more space is a big problem as it obscures your vision while giving orders in a firefight.
lookcr
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@ragnarok013 Yes, because this i want to see how really works in gameplay
TrasteTh
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@lookcr Appreciated, yet... how hard would it yo have a choice of designs fitting for different controllers and player styles? I think that may be a route Dice might want to explore, so we can choose if we want the block style they are going for here, or something more like BFV.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@ragnarok013 The more you use it, the more it will become second nature to quickly select the required 'square'.

Time on screen will become almost negligible.
trip1ex
4 years ago
I don't see anything wrong with it.
And afaik you aren't aiming this commorose like in some past games. so doesn't matter if takes up screen space. The choices seem pretty clear. And if they want the player to not be issuing commands when running around then I don't see anything wrong with that per se. IT is very game design dependent.
The problem with some past commorose designs was the execution not what you might see on a video. In BF1 iirc, I always had problems with selecting the sub menu options in the commorose. It never felt great.
Apologies to the " if it wasn't exactly like a past BF then "I'm giving my feedback." posters.
lookcr
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@TrasteTh Yep, is really hard. Think how may options we have to consider, buttons layout, for exemple between consoles Ps have the touch pad, Xbox not, is less one button
ragnarok013
Hero+
4 years ago
@Trokey66 wrote:
@ragnarok013 The more you use it, the more it will become second nature to quickly select the required 'square'.

Time on screen will become almost negligible.

@Trokey66 I hope so but I don't like how much real estate the new commo rose takes up on screen. Even with BF4's easy to use commo rose sometimes you need to try to hit a certain command a couple of times so naturally I'm skeptical but open minded even if I don't like the style. I just hope it functions better than it did in the tech test which was horrible.
CyberDyme
4 years ago
@ragnarok013 wrote:
@Trokey66 wrote:
@ragnarok013The more you use it, the more it will become second nature to quickly select the required 'square'.

Time on screen will become almost negligible.
@Trokey66I hope so but I don't like how much real estate the new commo rose takes up on screen. Even with BF4's easy to use commo rose sometimes you need to try to hit a certain command a couple of times so naturally I'm skeptical but open minded even if I don't like the style. I just hope it functions better than it did in the tech test which was horrible.
Thank you for pointing this out @ragnarok013 ,
So are we allowed now to share experience from the technical playtest?
If you notice then EA have now made the Comm Rose like semi transparent, but that then makes it less visible in strong lights and it's still a huge clunky box taking up substantial screen property.
My advice: Please make it much smaller and nimble, but do not make the actual command boxes transparent at all. Only the space between the command choices should be transparent. This would makes them easy to see in all game lightning conditions (because we still need to see visual confirmation on-screen on which we highlight) and as @Trokey66 highlights, we will quickly get their placements into our finger-mechanic memory.
carsono311
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@CyberDyme I see what you did there looking out for @ragnarok013... 😉

I personally have next to no memory of the Technical Playtest... much less the commrose. Been a busy year...