@DICE have you ever played Breakthru after the last Patch?

Zhukov211
4 years ago
Of course DICE hasn’t put much time into any game mode. Especially playing as infantry.

DICE is oblivious to the fact that Hind/Condor 50mm, even post nerf, is destroying the game for infantry players and ground vehicles.
The fact that DICE released the Stealth helo
in such a god like state shows us they have absolutely no idea what they are doing.

Stealth Helo:
- strong vs infantry
- strong vs armor
- strong vs enemy air
- strong versus AA
- has flares and stealth
That’s all in a single loadout. It’s insane. DICE needs to pick ONE of the above for stealth helo. No vehicle in any game should be strong versus all types opponents with a single loadout.

Furthermore, the Wildcat AA tank is an absolute joke. Flak physics for the 40mm and 57mm cannons isn’t even modeled. There are no flak physics modeled for the only AA cannon in game! The Wildcat’s turret traverse rate is too slow and you cannot elevate the gun straight up. The BF3/BF4 AA tank on portal performs so much better than the Wildcat that it’s difficult to believe both vehicles exist in the same game.
- CountSero
  Seasoned Ace
  4 years ago
  @Zhukov211 yeah they have everything nerfed what near to an is AA
  
  the helo farm was real since the release and with season one it is getting worse
  - edgecrusherO0
    4 years ago
    With Exposure feeling like it was designed exclusively with CQ in mind, I kinda agree. It feels like basically zero effort/attention is being given to Breakthrough and DICE just wants to focus everything on CQ.
- SpudBug
  4 years ago
  @Zhukov211 battlefield players are so bad at their own game they cry to get everything nerfed
  
  The stealth heli wouldn't dominate the way it does if the nightbird hadn't had it's climb speed nerfed and miniguns spray everywhere and if there were more than one attack aircraft per side. Jets can take it out in a few passes with 20mm guns. But everyone has whined about aircraft so much that there's only one active. So when the good stealth heli with a gunner kills the other team's aircraft they get 2 minutes or so to just farm infantry almost uncontested.
  
  Also tip for infantry players - Rao is the strongest anti air gadget that has ever been in a battlefield game and basically lets you shut down aircraft gameplay without any negative effects or risk. Infantry has the most tools against aircraft ever. A stealth heli that gets hacked out of stealth mode without nearby cover can easily get locked by two stingers and instantly die without being able to do a thing about it. And most maps other than exposure have very little aerial cover.
  
  Aircraft and tanks have been nerfed and reduced in spawn numbers so they spend most of the game not fighting other vehicles, they spend most of the time fighting infantry, so infantry have a hard time. Plus most players have no idea what they are doing or how to deal with armor/aircraft and would rather complain than adapt and learn how to do anything but play call of duty style.
  - CountSero
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago
    @SpudBug so all threads that have the problems with these stealthelcopters in breakthru are just gratuitous crying about a perfectly balanced game ? mate you are not really blaming the "infantry" players for it?
    
    I'm always very patient about the game and I always try to adjust my playstile depending of the situation first.
    
    But since layout change last Thursday Breakthru is absolutely dominated by the stealthhilcopters in combination with the condor.
    
    And the defenders have no real chance to defend themselves against it, not even with RAO. I tried it
    
    also, I don't just go to the forum and ask for a nerf of a weapon, a vehicle or gadget. The only gadget which can be removed in my opinion is the prox ball because there are still eough and better options to spott in the game
    
    and I think most of the changes made by DICE to some specialists are just ridiculous, as some specists now just don't make sense anymore like Boris or Dozer and with the last patch they have get their eye on Sundance and Casper.
    
    What i I ask for is a balance, so give the defenders an AA vehicle and remove the flairs from the Stealth helicopters (one defence mechanism should be enough for every vehicle in the game)
    
    Also, some weapons are too effective against infantry like the 50mm pod from the condor. If you spam this thing around a flag that gets attacked, you will mass killing infantry with no effort or the fear to get shot down.
    
    Give this thing a little more health and get down with the fire power, this thing is still a transporter not a flying fortress.
    
    Remove the option to repair a vehicle while you sitting in it (like they did in BF2 when helicopters where nearly invincible when 2 people where repairing this thing in the air)
    
    and they should change the layout back it was more balanced before thursday

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