Gun Balance - M5A3 - AK24
Dice - specifically gun balance devs. Please buff damage on M5A3 CLOSE COMBAT rounds from 10 meters up to 30 meters to 22 damage. If you look at the time to kill M5A3 in the chart below, close c...
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@IRoss2 wrote:
@InS_HypnoDude, I dont really care what gun to use. I don't struggle with any gun. The fact is M5A3 close combat rounds doing 6 bullets to kill past 10 meters is a joke and should be increased to 20 meters. I literally can equip normal extended rounds and have better time to kill then with close combat rounds. After 10 meters which is nearly in your face target, here are guns that out dps M5 close rounds SCAR, BSV, K30, MP9, ACE 42, 12M, Crossbow, lCMG, MP28, NWT- 50, PKP-BP, PP-29, VCAR so thats almost entire arsenal of weapons that can outdps nerfed M5cc rounds. So who is the real troll here ???
Just played a game with the close combat short barrel combo
Had 50 kills at the 15 minute mark on the first game I use that gun in ages
If you struggle with that gun you are just bad
@InS_Hypno Do you even read what I said. If you want to fight me 1v1 I will put you in your place. I can get with any gun 50 plus kill in a round that is not the point of this conversation. I said that the damage output on close quarters on m5a5 is terrible from 10 meters up to 30 meters compared to almost all guns in this game, if you say it is not then I am done talking to you because you are just trolling. I listed all the guns that are able to outdps m5a5 cc from 10 meters - 30 meters. If you think m5a5 is still op while almost every other gun in this game does better dps from 10 meters is just pure ingnorance.
@IRoss2 wrote:
@InS_HypnoDo you even read what I said. If you want to fight me 1v1 I will put you in your place. I can get with any gun 50 plus kill in a round that is not the point of this conversation. I said that the damage output on close quarters on m5a5 is terrible from 10 meters up to 30 meters compared to almost all guns in this game, if you say it is not then I am done talking to you because you are just trolling. I listed all the guns that are able to outdps m5a5 cc from 10 meters - 30 meters. If you think m5a5 is still op while almost every other gun in this game does better dps from 10 meters is just pure ingnorance.Oh the game wasn't over I left because my team couldn't even cap the first sector
If my team would've been able to cap the objective that was a easily a 100 kill game
To me the m5 cc ammo short barrel is a top tier gun
I've done 100 plus games on conquest not just brakethrough, what are you trying to prove here. If you are using M5A5 cc over standard rounds you literally downgrading yourself.
To keep things simple here are two guns with essentially the same fire rate, both with Close Combat rounds and I have them set up for what I use personally. Understandably, the M5A3 with Close Combat rounds should not equal the MP9 as it is still an AR archetype. I would only suggest that the 22 damage ends at 20m instead of the current 10m, still giving the MP9 a damage advantage at 20-30m and 40-50m, along with the ammo advantage of 14 rounds, If you look at the stats versus an M5A3 with Standard Issue rounds:
The Close Combat rounds only have a small advantage in time to kill from 0-10m and 30-40m, while Standard Issue rounds have a larger advantage at all other ranges. The buff of 22 damage at 0-20m will give the intended advantage of close combat, while not encroaching on the actual SMG archetype that is the MP9, and leaving the Standard Issue rounds as the overall better mid-range choice.
