Here we go again, NO communication from EA/Dice

RMEChief
Legend
4 years ago
It is a sensitive new breed of CMs. They would not dare to engage in real conversations about the game with the community. They cherry-pick which ones to engage in. They rarely, if ever respond to any criticism.

What they don't understand is we wouldn't be here if we didn't want the game to be a success. We aren't complaining just to complain. Just look at the player counts. This game is an abject failure regardless of perspective, but it doesn't have to be. They just need to listen to the community and bring back some core BF functionality to the game.
- BR-DuaneDibbley
  Seasoned Ace
  4 years ago
  @Adamonic
  
  They might even want to do that, but with just a handful of developers (at most) there is only so much that can be done.
  
  Of course they don't admit to that and even flat out lied about this fact, even if it is so obvious. Now we got the statement from the highest level at Dice that 'No other game is in development and all are working on BF2042!', even though we know that IF that would be a true statement, the rework of all launch maps would have been completed already. But we will get just ONE map rework in S1 later in August. ONE! And most likely one ONE new map with S2 -- IF we are lucky (nobody confirmed even that bit).
  
  How hard can it be to integrate the basic core features that are most requested? Definitely not very hard, especially for things like persistent servers and a server browser for AoW. All this is already in the game in Portal. Why don't we get it? Because the 2-3 guys are desperately working on other things to make it look like someone is still working on BF2042, even if basically nobody does.
  
  So, what should the CMs communicate. Were they to post here about that, they would also have to perpetuate this lie. They clearly could not come here and state: 'Sorry, no core features will come in the foreseeable future as the 3 remaining devs need to focus on getting the one map out and fixing the most important bugs.'
  - RMEChief
    Legend
    4 years ago
    @DuaneDibbley I agree that they are being very misleading about the level of effort put into this title so they don't get slammed with a lawsuit, especially from investors.
    
    However, map fixes? Moving objectives, adding entities to the map. That can be completed and tested with 1 or 2 devs in a week.
    
    Vehicle, weapon, or aircraft balancing, can be done in an hour with changes to only a few values, tested, and put out as a hot fix.
    
    Most of the things we are asking for can be done with very minimal effort. They have their own agenda though, and it is not in line with ours. They want this title to have as few active players as possible so they can cut losses as soon as possible and move on. The last few surveys indicated as much.
    
    For CMs, we constantly post about issues for weeks, then a streamer will mention it once, and they will respond with thanks, we will look into it.
    
    They already mentioned Server Browser, at launch, and during a recent Q&A. So it is not like certain topics weren't discussed. They are just tone deaf. It might actually be a language barrier thing with the bulk of the development in Sweden. Even though they speak English, they may not understand a lot of the context to what we are saying.
- Mackstan71
  Seasoned Ace
  4 years ago
  @Adamonic Agree 200%
- FlibberMeister
  Seasoned Ace
  4 years ago
  @Adamonic wrote:
  It is a sensitive new breed of CMs. They would not dare to engage in real conversations about the game with the community. They cherry-pick which ones to engage in. They rarely, if ever respond to any criticism.
  
  What they don't understand is we wouldn't be here if we didn't want the game to be a success. We aren't complaining just to complain. Just look at the player counts. This game is an abject failure regardless of perspective, but it doesn't have to be. They just need to listen to the community and bring back some core BF functionality to the game.
  I don’t think Community Managers have any decision making powers or ability to engage beyond the official lines.
  
  so I don’t have an issue with CMs. I take issue with the big honchos. That have decided not to formally comment on match making/server browser. And only vaguely alluded to updates to squad controls.
  On a side note, it’s patently obvious the direction of the game is no longer focussed on team play, so I’m pretty much done.
  - RMEChief
    Legend
    4 years ago
    @FlibberMeister CMs do comment, but mainly in Reddit or on Twitter. Rarely in their own official forums. They also don't respond to the average joe on game-breaking issues, but will immediately forward comments made by streamers. So I understand they don't have decision authority, but they are the conduit between the community and the developers, they are supposed to be "people persons", and are far from it.
    
    I would say everyone associated with the game has to shoulder some of the blame from the top down.
    
    I agree that the game's only association with the franchise is with its name.

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