@rippedwire01 didn't think a scoreboard to show where a individual sits on a team oriented game would be really that important. I am just trying to understand what about it would make the game better?
Scoreboards are very informative and also should just be in a multiplayer only game by default. People are rarely selfless and many are competitive. Scoreboards show the player exactly how well they are doing compared to everyone else
Having a scoreboard has been in all the bf games. It provides information so you can see how well you are doing in comparison to your team and the opposition. It also tells you how well your team is doing compared to the opposition.
Additionally, it also tells you if there are any cheaters in the game.Having more info is better and when a new game is coming people expect that info to stay and not be completely cut out
The point is that very very very useful information is being hidden from players for no reason.
You may not use the scoreboard or even like it, but other players use the scoreboard to set a goal for themselves.
They like to objectively see how well they are doing. That is an aspect of fun that the scoreboard provides. Do you know how satisfying it is to be at the top of the scoreboard getting very few kills but providing revives? Unparalleled
@rippedwire01 wrote:Scoreboards are very informative and also should just be in a multiplayer only game by default. People are rarely selfless and many are competitive. Scoreboards show the player exactly how well they are doing compared to everyone else
Having a scoreboard has been in all the bf games. It provides information so you can see how well you are doing in comparison to your team and the opposition. It also tells you how well your team is doing compared to the opposition.
Additionally, it also tells you if there are any cheaters in the game.Having more info is better and when a new game is coming people expect that info to stay and not be completely cut out
The point is that very very very useful information is being hidden from players for no reason.
You may not use the scoreboard or even like it, but other players use the scoreboard to set a goal for themselves.
They like to objectively see how well they are doing. That is an aspect of fun that the scoreboard provides. Do you know how satisfying it is to be at the top of the scoreboard getting very few kills but providing revives? Unparalleled
I would also argue that you can tell how you are doing just based off of if you are winning or losing. If your team has 120 tickets compared to the opponents 500 I think you can easily determine things are not going well. I will argue that detecting cheaters is really not that easy by looking at scoreboards, in BF4 heli pilots can go 100-1, doesn't mean they are cheating.
I think objectively seeing how you are doing is pretty easy on the current review system, you can see your kills and your deaths. Your captures, heals, revives, etc. The old scoreboard basically would let you know if you were on top or not, but in a team game does that really matter? Not really unless one thinks individual performance is more important than the team.
So conversely: why is the removal of the scoreboard better than having one?
All I'm saying is that it's very nice to have all of that information while the game is going on. In previous games, you still had the option to ignore it
And again I'm going to use the example of a medic with a terrible K/D but supporting the hell out of their team. It's very satisfying to see a good medic high on the board
@rippedwire01 wrote:So conversely: why is the removal of the scoreboard better than having one?
All I'm saying is that it's very nice to have all of that information while the game is going on. In previous games, you still had the option to ignore it
And again I'm going to use the example of a medic with a terrible K/D but supporting the hell out of their team. It's very satisfying to see a good medic high on the board
Fair enough
@rippedwire01 wrote:Scoreboards are very informative and also should just be in a multiplayer only game by default. People are rarely selfless and many are competitive. Scoreboards show the player exactly how well they are doing compared to everyone else
Having a scoreboard has been in all the bf games. It provides information so you can see how well you are doing in comparison to your team and the opposition. It also tells you how well your team is doing compared to the opposition.
Additionally, it also tells you if there are any cheaters in the game.Having more info is better and when a new game is coming people expect that info to stay and not be completely cut out
The point is that very very very useful information is being hidden from players for no reason.
You may not use the scoreboard or even like it, but other players use the scoreboard to set a goal for themselves.
They like to objectively see how well they are doing. That is an aspect of fun that the scoreboard provides. Do you know how satisfying it is to be at the top of the scoreboard getting very few kills but providing revives? Unparalleled
I too use the scoreboard to gauge how Im playing and for me it pretty much justifies the whole point of playing the game.
kD doesn’t really figure because I can’t aim for *. Repairing though, oh man, if your in the middle of a fire fight, I’m the mofo running behind you repairing whilst you get your * shot off.
and that shows in the score board. My 2/18 kD, still top team and top 5 on the leaderboard.
currently I get get jack all in knowing how much I contributed to everyone else for pto.
I accept the scoreboard for many doesn’t figure, and fair enough. But clearly for a lot of us, it plays a vital role in our enjoyment.
some other things it’s good for.
* squad review, are they pulling there weight? Do I need to motivate, regroup or put more effort into getting the team to work together. or should I change squad?
wiich squad should I join if I join half way through. Clearly the squad with high pto scores.
what loadout should I pick? Review the squad view to check what class they are.
mend game scoreboard. Where did I place overall? Who was better? What were they doing? Can I play better. Who was good on the other side? Do I recognise them? Should I join them if I get the chance.
I met most of my regular bF friends joining squads by reviewing the end game scoreboard, jointing good or regular players and chatting on coms.
all stuff that’s now just really difficult if not impossible to do right now.
