It's really hard to tell what the reason is behind this change, afterburner now uses up extremely fast, which wont give you any meaningful advantage.Dogfight has become even more braindead than it had already been, after the update, both sides are flying slowly and bleeding speed at an unacceptable level, and if you use Afterburner, it will be burnt out before the FIRST turn is complete, in addition, if you press "SHIFT" to initiate the afterburner, the entire speeding cycle can not be stopped unless you let go the "W" key. By doing that, you are basically putting the jet into idle mode thus losing even more speed than what you gained from the afterburner.Ways to improve it is to greatly increase the duration of the afterburner and let it start to help you gain speed by pressing and holding "SHIFT" and STOP the burn by releasing the "SHIFT"

Best of all is the reason why they did it."Included a Jet Afterburner Meter so players are now able to manage how and when to use afterburners to gain air combat advantage."I was able to do that before by simply using the Afterburner. They should at least tell the truth.We did it to slow down the jets.Now it feels like you are faster on foot.

@SamuraiChopstickIt will be really awkward to get off the habit of using the Afterburner all the timeI believe the suggestion of the OP to make the afterburner turn off after unpressing the keybind to be a good idea. In fact it should had been part of this change because the current way the afterburner works assumes an infinite afterburner.

@UP_Hawxxeye "It will be really awkward to get off the habit of using the Afterburner all the time"Yes especially because everyone has the Afterburner also binding on "W". We will see. The idea from the OP would also make the most sense to me.

Anybody has any idea why they would change this?

IF the Lis TV Missle is flying faster than you jet, then you know something is wrong.I miss the speed of BF2 jets:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z73Hou1KVo

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UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
2 years ago
@Dutchie-Mario
Because this patch change for the jet is basically like if someone restricted your sprint to 3 seconds via a stamina bar. Just consider how that would feel for your gameplay on a large CQ map? Especially if you are under fire with no cover in sight
Dutchie-Mario
2 years ago
@UP_Hawxxeye Yes I get that, it's no real problem for.me. It s just there are more freaky things in this season people complaining about like the stupid battle pass progression or 1.nade for.underbarrel, but that won't be fixed within 24 hours?
MADMAC50K
2 years ago
@UP_Hawxxeye Or, I dunno, like someone had nerfed the speed and turning ability of your anti-vehicle rocket like they did with Lis? And yet, that nerf has still not been reversed months later....
CBF-Arhan
New Adventurer
2 years ago
I'm not sure what to say but even with the afterburner server side increase the jets feel slow and clunky. They feel like a truck with a transmission problem. Even when you use your afterburner to come in fast or get out fast it just feels awful. Please revisit previous modern battlefield 3/4 jet handling. I'm not enjoying how easy we are dead if we make a single mistake. It makes it harder to want to attack when you are just going get shredded the moment you fly in to attack another jet from the ground. Who can bait their flying boat over the wildcats first has become the play.... It's way harder to bait enemy pilots out away from wildcats or enemy bases without extra air speed.
Regardless Dice thanks for making them somewhat useful again. I'm not sure why we always go forward and backwards on changes. Jets needed to be improved or left alone. I would argue the only change jets needed was to have additional types of jets or weapons. Nobody asked for a pondhawk.
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
2 years ago
@Dutchie-Mario wrote:
@UP_HawxxeyeYes I get that, it's no real problem for.me. It s just there are more freaky things in this season people complaining about like the stupid battle pass progression or 1.nade for.underbarrel, but that won't be fixed within 24 hours?
@MADMAC50K wrote:
@UP_Hawxxeye Or, I dunno, like someone had nerfed the speed and turning ability of your anti-vehicle rocket like they did with Lis? And yet, that nerf has still not been reversed months later....
I agree that both of these things should had been fixed already. I am quite frustrated with the grenade launcher one in particular, did we got any statements for them yet?
As about the Lis missile, I am also annoyed about that one, but I sitll manage to land hits on the gunships (the FarmBirds are hard to hit though) I hope they will realize the turning speed needs to go back where it was.
iigloo
Seasoned Veteran
2 years ago
@PrecisionWing The only reason is that someone in Dice thought it would be a good idea.
They never ever care about what the core playerbase thinks. The playerbase that constantly keep shrinking because Dice runs their studio like this nowdays.

I bought the game because how it was in the release. Now there is nothing left of that and EA should give a refund for that.

What other product you buy would you accept this behaviour from?

Imagine that you buy a chair for a couple of hundred. You discover a problem and send it back to the store. When you pick it up again it has a totally different function and colour. You ask them what happen and they answer "we thought this change would be better for you" and when you want to return it they say "sorry, but you have used it too much".
CBF-Arhan
New Adventurer
2 years ago
I just wanted to say after getting use to the change a bit more the Jets are still viable. The AB change once the server-side fix went live seems to of put us back in the mix, but I am guarded in saying that depending on challenge Jets still may not have enough AB to evade. Littlebird cannons/wildcats who are accurate will still have their way with us.
My suggestion would be able to turn Afterburners on or off, and to have a bit more of a bar. What sucks is using all of your afterburners when you didn't need them all to break a lock or get out of dodge. I would like to be able to control when to I turn them off. Not just being able to turn them on and expend them completely. Just some thoughts. Dice, please review older modern battlefields in Jet handling.
UP_LordPlumber
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Perfect illustration of how it feels like vs how it looks like. Slow, clunky, but requires you to focus too much on that stupid bar in order to dogfight and have enough juice to run if things go south
https://youtu.be/tvow9XWTU3M?si=2_yclhWRHAi2lQwG

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