Lots of forum users are very experienced computer folks.can you help me understand what the average server latency is and how it works in 2042. I think I know, but I can’t understand how it could be so bad. I’m on the west coast of Canada near the US border, so the expected Amazon server is Seattle. That’s about a 2 hour drive. When I join an empty server, my ping is 27 and my average server latency (ALAT) is 27. When a buddy in Alberta joins, the ALAT moves to 32. As other players join, it will get as high as 52. I can’t hit much at that 52, but I can find a groove. Last night, I was matched into a server with an ALAT of 165. 2 other players were in there. My latency was still 27 mind you, but my ALAT was 165. I could not play at that. I quit that server, but the game match made me back to it no matter what. What could the possible benefit be for Dice to make that acceptable? How far away would another player have to be for the ALAT to be 165? Europe? Asia? The game doesn’t seem to have a regional or latency filter, and with VPNs these days, would that even help?

@hambaci_kurangerTN sucks. They cater to players with high pings. You are at a significant disadvantage with a low ping as they bundle updates from slower clients. Lower ping players will feel like they have rubber bullets, then instantly die from what feels like one shot, when it was 5. They went with lazy netcode to accommodate 128 players and 45Hz servers.

Let’s talk average server latency

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Adamonic
2 years ago
@ATFGunr wrote:
Lots of forum users are very experienced computer folks.can you help me understand what the average server latency is and how it works in 2042. I think I know, but I can’t understand how it could be so bad. I’m on the west coast of Canada near the US border, so the expected Amazon server is Seattle. That’s about a 2 hour drive. When I join an empty server, my ping is 27 and my average server latency (ALAT) is 27. When a buddy in Alberta joins, the ALAT moves to 32. As other players join, it will get as high as 52. I can’t hit much at that 52, but I can find a groove. Last night, I was matched into a server with an ALAT of 165. 2 other players were in there. My latency was still 27 mind you, but my ALAT was 165. I could not play at that. I quit that server, but the game match made me back to it no matter what. What could the possible benefit be for Dice to make that acceptable? How far away would another player have to be for the ALAT to be 165? Europe? Asia? The game doesn’t seem to have a regional or latency filter, and with VPNs these days, would that even help?
So ALAT is the average of everyone's ping (LAT), so with your LAT so much lower than the ALAT, you would be experiencing extreme lag compensation, making the game unplayable for you.

Preferably, you want the LAT and ALAT to be as close as possible and somewhere between 45-90. You can be below that, but with the 45Hz tick rate servers, the updates are only coming every 22.2ms anyway.
The 45Hz servers are the #1 reason why the game feels so bad. If they went to 60Hz like previous titles, even when you had a bad ping, the game would still feel ok. It feels off all the time right now.
This is also another reason for a server browser, to choose the exact server you and friends can play on that might meet halfway for your pings.
NehkidGramma84
2 years ago
@ATFGunr I'm in Sask and i'm getting between 42 and 57 ping, but mostly its always around 47. Would be nice to be right next to a server. Wish they could set up a central canada server! that'd be amazing!
NehkidGramma84
2 years ago
@Adamonic I didnt know this! thank you for the explanation!
sk1lld
Legend
2 years ago
45Hz servers bah!
ATFGunr
Legend
2 years ago
@Adamonic interesting that you’re pointing the finger at the 45 hz servers rather than the network compensation itself. I hadn’t considered that as the source. Of course as established in these forums, a server browser is the most requested feature ever. Without a ping limitation or something similar though, out of region players could still choose to jump in and drag the whole server down. That’s always been an issue, but with rentable servers you could kick anyone with a 300 ping off the server and solve the issue immediately.
Adamonic
2 years ago
@ATFGunr wrote:
@Adamonicinteresting that you’re pointing the finger at the 45 hz servers rather than the network compensation itself. I hadn’t considered that as the source. Of course as established in these forums, a server browser is the most requested feature ever. Without a ping limitation or something similar though, out of region players could still choose to jump in and drag the whole server down. That’s always been an issue, but with rentable servers you could kick anyone with a 300 ping off the server and solve the issue immediately.
Oh it's both. I am just saying you basically need an optimal ping with the 45Hz servers. Once the lag comp kicks in and you are only getting 22.2ms updates, the game is going to feel horrible.

That is why you get bundled hits, because the update intervals are not consistent with the damage and RoF on most weapons. So kills and deaths feel off, movement feels off, and apparently there are server side settings for mouse inputs.
gamefreak04
2 years ago
@ATFGunr
I actually come from another language section at this fourm, at that section players have been complaining about the poor netcode and ping performance for months too. No sign of improvements or replies or anything like that from EA ( We are ignored).
That's why I took a look here in the English section, it's nice to see that here are complaints too......but to make it short, I don't think anything will change, the game is simply a flop, money is only made with skins, new 60hz servers cost money EA woun't spend. The number of players is too low to switch for for profit to new servers for EA
OskooI_007
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
As Adamonic said. To calculate the server's average latency you add up everyone's ping and then divide the total by the number of players
Player 1 ping = 150
Player 2 ping = 10
Player 3 ping = 300
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Total = 460
460÷3=153 average server ping
ForumUser
2 years ago
@OskooI_007

That would be one way to do it But a very bad way, given that one or a few players with a bad ping seems to be able to ruin everybody's experience on the server.

It would be stupid by Dice to just calculate the average the basic way or otherwise they could not really tell anything from this aggregate and the value would not be able to reflect the influence some players with bad ping will have. Unless they would calculate the average of say 10 players with the hightest LAT values. Then you can most likely get away with this (even though not so much if even one player alone can drag down the whole server, but in this case you can even just show the average of the top 3 or so).
gamefreak04
2 years ago
@ForumUser wrote:
@OskooI_007

That would be one way to do it But a very bad way, given that one or a few players with a bad ping seems to be able to ruin everybody's experience on the server.

To be honest, it's a shame for the game, but probably EA or the servers can't be blamed for the bad netcode because there are simply not enough players to use the servers properly. How is a server supposed to assemble a good connection between the only players in the entire game who play in different continents? The game cannot simply create a server in one continent because there are simply not enough players to fill it. I deleted and installed again the game for the third time. Hope it will be my last time....... I was in a TDM match who one team was dominating because they killed around edges and instant kills, I left the game and searched for a new one... I landed in the same squad in the same Lobby..... left again and searched for a new one, I landed again in the same squad and Lobby. After I activated crossplay (normaly play without crossplay for fairness on both sides). Found a complete new lobby but had the same problems with more Problems......