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- ChrisAWJBethel4 years agoSeasoned Ace@ArchAngeL-PCX Actually, Supremacy, Campaign, and Arcade are the only modes available offline.
- @ChrisAWJBethel You pay money to get permission (a license) to use someone else's property (the game). You don't own the game (software, code) just because you bought its container (the disc). Same goes for music.
- @ChrisAWJBethel Co-op is indeed available offline. I've played it. I'm pretty sure they added Starfighter Assault offline too. Both are selections in the arcade.
@ChugKendallTrue, but again this is a moot point because how often do you actually see a game retailer "revoke" your license to a game you bought? lol You buy the game and go home, or download it. That was the whole controversy behind DRM since DRM and "always online" is basically the only way to shut someone down from playing what usually is an offline game. Same thing in music.
@ArchAngeL-PCXThe retailer doesn't own the game, so they can't revoke anything; it is up to the owner to do that, and they usually do it through policing agreements with their network partners. But as the owner, the company should be able to do whatever they want with their product, anyway--including telling you that you are no longer allowed to use it. You agreed to all of the the terms involved when you voluntarily purchased a limited license to play it. If you didn't want to be bound by any terms, you had the choice to keep your money. Instead, you wanted to play the game, and be bound, more than you wanted your money in your wallet--or your convictions intact.
- Trokey664 years agoSeasoned Ace
@ChrisAWJBethelRead the Terms and conditions. You don't own the game's software, you have a license to use it in the same way you buy a license to use MS Word or Excel for example.
As to revoking the license this could include being caught cheating, altering the code or unauthorised copying. These do happen regularly.
It could also include shutting the game down for whatever reason and you won't have a leg to stand on because you accepted and 'signed' the terms and conditions when you bought the license.
- @ChugKendall Your reading WAY too much into what I posted. lol
We all know what an EULA is. The point is, they'll never care enough to come shut a single player game down on you. lol You'll be able to play it as long as you have a working console. So this is just a circular argument of semantics.
See Sony's "Used game policy" from their now classic PS4 E3 conference of 2013 for more info. lol - @Trokey66 I don't think I've ever heard of a software company shutting down someone's license unless they detect malicious activity. But yeah they can shut the servers down which is a big argument for having the ability to play offline. Not sure it will be a problem with BF2042 though, given that people are still playing BF3 online after a decade. lol
- tyl04134 years agoSeasoned VeteranImagine using the TOS as a justification to why corporations taking your stuff is okay. They won't and literally can't take a physical or DRM free game away and they shouldn't. If i buy something that copy is mine. it's unethical and just wrong and should be illegal as well, imagine if with anything other than software you'd need to constantly keep asking the manufacturer for permission to keep using said product and as soon as they decline they just take it away like it was never even there.
- @tyl0413 @tyl0413 The market abhors a vacuum, so--without government prohibiting it--there will always be someone with a product to fill that void. If people refuse to buy games (or anything else) that can be shut down, someone will come along and try to get all that money that gamers are withholding. Currently, there aren't anywhere near enough gamers that are concerned enough to withhold their money, so there isn't enough incentive for the change.