The current spotting system is one of the biggest funkiller for me. As soon you start shooting you get spotted it is really making a supressor a must have which comes along with a damage reduction. Furthermore the spotting seems to bugged in general because as you hover over somebody no matter the distance he/she gets spotted immedately.Personally I think the way how Battlefield V handeled the whole spotting mechanic in the end was pretty good, today I found youtube comment on one Battlefield 2042 feedback video that describes it perfectly:"BFV did suppressors PERFECTLY. They lowered the audio of the gun (duh) but the audio without a suppressor was so meaty and well designed that it made a tangible difference. And then the added utility was that the enemy would no longer get directional damage indicators when you use a suppressed weapon. That was such a great trade-off IMO and it made the suppressors really useful while not making them a necessity"I really would appreciate it when the minimap spotting when you shoot your gun without a supressor gets removed and silencer therefore get the ability to remove the damage indicator. This would allow for more tactical gameplay and people would actually start using their eyes&ears to spot enemies instead looking on their minimap for the ingame "radar hack" to do it's job.Thank you for reading.

@Sch1ll1I agree, the way it is now is horrible, you get spotted by proxy balls no matter what you do.I don't agree about the bfv system though, bf3 did it perfect,the problem is proxy balls.

BF3 had a "broken" spot-system. You more or less just pressed Q and everyone was 3D-spotted.The audio spot when firing really is awful, why it was brought back to BF is a mystery. Vehicles also benefit a lot from audio spot, which just makes them even more unbalanced against infantry.

@cso7777 I thought BF1's spotting system was the best compromise of all games with no audio spotting and 3d spotting clearing as soon as line of sight was lost. There was also perks that reduced the effect.

@Trokey66 I hope you are right.But I fear that the chaos of 128 players and maps without much cover, makes people play more cautious and spotting gadgets will be 'meta'.And when the battlepass comes around, we will have to level up again, as long as spotting is the quickest way of leveling up, it will probably come back again.But I think Dice has mentioned that they are looking at the mines.

@Sch1ll1 wrote:The excessive use of the motion sensor balls is a result of not having classes and limits in the game.100% this. Having no class restriction is the major balance breaker No. 1. While I understand it´s somewhat necessary that in theory 64 people can equip Stinger or CG to fight the massive amount of vehicles. But having 30+ people, at average, spam the motion sensors, is beyond stupid in any design decision. At the very least, spotting gadgets should be restricted to Recon Operators only. Casper for example is completely useless by design, if anyone else just need to equip motion sensor, spot everything within a big radius and still have the abilities of their actual operator.

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32 Replies

R1ckyDaMan19
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Sch1ll1I agree, the way it is now is horrible, you get spotted by proxy balls no matter what you do.
I don't agree about the bfv system though, bf3 did it perfect,the problem is proxy balls.
cso7777
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
BF3 had a "broken" spot-system. You more or less just pressed Q and everyone was 3D-spotted.
The audio spot when firing really is awful, why it was brought back to BF is a mystery. Vehicles also benefit a lot from audio spot, which just makes them even more unbalanced against infantry.
R1ckyDaMan19
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@cso7777 So 3d spotting from bf3 is bad but hey proxy balls spot everyone they land near and they can't do a thing about it.

The way minimap spotting works is good, it means a trade off between firepower and stealth, the proxy balls right now are 10 times worse than 3d spotting ever was.
Dont_skip_OMW
Seasoned Novice
4 years ago
This 100%. As it is now there is simply way to many things that spots you and you have no idea if you are spottad or not. Coming from BFV to BF2042 is like hitting a wall. Have you tried the soflam? jesus.. that thing spots an whole areas in 1 sec, its just * and dont get me started on the "auto spot" crap when u look/ADS at some1, that is beyond broken. You can find people in bushes just by looking at the bush but you dont actually see the player but you still spot them, its *. The prox balls is an other thing. It shouldn't spot people through walls and floors/roofs.
Would love the silencer effect from BFV as well.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@cso7777 I thought BF1's spotting system was the best compromise of all games with no audio spotting and 3d spotting clearing as soon as line of sight was lost. There was also perks that reduced the effect.
MegatronNerd
Rising Veteran
4 years ago
Im gonna agree that spotting needs some work and adjustments
I feel like I am just spotted no matter what I do and flashing w a big red arrow above my head for everyone to see across the entire map all the time
I also feel like maybe that is bugged as well but who knows
Sch1ll1
New Hotshot
4 years ago
@Trokey66 Really was it like that on BF1 ? I think there actually was 3D spotting with Q, will check that out.

Glad I am not alone with my thoughts that the spotting is a bit fishy when you hover over an enemy. I once read a statement that this should be only possible within a 10 meter radius.
cso7777
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Trokey66I'm not a fan of 3D spot, but would take BF1s spotting system over 2042s audio spot any day.

And the proximity mines should be reduced in number and efficiency, I personally spam them a lot, but it still feels stupid.

Having 128 players and being spotted almost all the time, is just a design decision that is stupid beyond belief.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@cso7777 Not sure if it is relevant but it would seem that Casper is the easiest to rank up to T1 with his spotting drone. It may be that a lot of players are doing that, I know I am.

Perhaps when most have done it, things may settle down, it they don't then a nerf may be required.
cso7777
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Trokey66 I hope you are right.

But I fear that the chaos of 128 players and maps without much cover, makes people play more cautious and spotting gadgets will be 'meta'.

And when the battlepass comes around, we will have to level up again, as long as spotting is the quickest way of leveling up, it will probably come back again.

But I think Dice has mentioned that they are looking at the mines.