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- edgecrusherO03 years agoSeasoned Ace
@InS_Hypno wrote:Playing breakthrough is now a non-stop POSITION REVEALED spam fest
Lord yes, there needs to be something to offset spotting huge groups of enemies for her team. It's great when there are 3-4 and they seem to be popping them around the same time, so no matter where you run to try to get out of her vision you're still always spotted.
Real though, it's hilarious we have an ability that's basically built-in wall hacks on a cooldown. Breathrough is absolutely miserable with this trash, but then again DICE seems to not give a crap about breakthrough in general and there are massive problems with the mode that remain unaddressed and are likely impossible to fix (like pilots having huge chunks of the map as guaranteed protection to fly to if they're getting hit due to the way the sectors work).
@InS_Hypno wrote:Did Paik really need a buff?
Like did a character with freaking wall hacks really needed to be stronger?
I know you really want Jimmy 11 year old on xbox to have a positive KD but this isn't the way to do it you are driving people away
Playing breakthrough is a non-stop POSITION REVEALED spam fest now that there's no drawbacks to activating her wall hacks
They didn't need a buff for sure and I can't wait until it's nerfed along with the K30....
Personally, K/D should not be a thing in BF. Let's go back to kills with no death listed. It's supposed to be a team based, objective game. Oh, wait this is 2042....
- Psubond3 years agoLegend
meh, i used her long enough to get T1, i don't like playing as her so now that i did T1 i probably won't pick her again. i prefer to hunt vehicles and she's trash at that
- Psubond3 years agoLegend
@Echo6Echo wrote:
@InS_Hypno wrote:Did Paik really need a buff?
Like did a character with freaking wall hacks really needed to be stronger?
I know you really want Jimmy 11 year old on xbox to have a positive KD but this isn't the way to do it you are driving people away
Playing breakthrough is a non-stop POSITION REVEALED spam fest now that there's no drawbacks to activating her wall hacks
They didn't need a buff for sure and I can't wait until it's nerfed along with the K30....
Personally, K/D should not be a thing in BF. Let's go back to kills with no death listed. It's supposed to be a team based, objective game. Oh, wait this is 2042....
just make the scoreboard show only exp gained. that'll take the * out of the people who play this like team death match. will cut down on the crying about weapons too
- ElliotLH3 years agoHero+
Don't really see much of a problem with the spot putting her on the map too. It might actually be a decent tradeoff.
- Psubond3 years agoLegend
@ElliotLH wrote:Don't really see much of a problem with the spot putting her on the map too. It might actually be a decent tradeoff.
that's the way it used to be but they changed it in the most recent patch
- edgecrusherO03 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Echo6Echo wrote:Personally, K/D should not be a thing in BF. Let's go back to kills with no death listed. It's supposed to be a team based, objective game. Oh, wait this is 2042....
I legit just ignore my deaths. Sure they're usually fairly high, but so is my score (not even counting the other PTFO and helpful things I do that aren't tracked like healing).
The updated scoreboard is still lightyears better than the initial non-scoreboard, but the implementation of this fake scoreboard with arbitrary weights for only a few actions is dumb and pointless. I'm still shocked that a AAA developer of a franchise for two decades is struggling this much with basic features that took months post-launch to build.
This still looks and functions like an early WIP first pass while they're still hooking the system up to track XP contributions...but it's the "final product" we're getting.
What a time to be alive!
@edgecrusherO0 wrote:
@Echo6Echo wrote:Personally, K/D should not be a thing in BF. Let's go back to kills with no death listed. It's supposed to be a team based, objective game. Oh, wait this is 2042....
I legit just ignore my deaths. Sure they're usually fairly high, but so is my score (not even counting the other PTFO and helpful things I do that aren't tracked like healing).
The updated scoreboard is still lightyears better than the initial non-scoreboard, but the implementation of this fake scoreboard with arbitrary weights for only a few actions is dumb and pointless. I'm still shocked that a AAA developer of a franchise for two decades is struggling this much with basic features that took months post-launch to build.
This still looks and functions like an early WIP first pass while they're still hooking the system up to track XP contributions...but it's the "final product" we're getting.
What a time to be alive!
I know right? I haven't yet figured out why they already give you XP for everything, kills, assists, caps, healing, ammo, EVERYTHING yet they use some silly system on the scoreboard. I mean 2 points for kills, 1 point for this thing and that thing. Why didn't they just put the scoreboard in with the stats that most ask for and then MAKE YOUR TOTAL SCORE THE SAME AS XP. That way you're not leaving 60% of what you do off the score chart....and On topic...Paik needs a huge nerf...or better yet, the ability removed entirely...
- edgecrusherO03 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Echo6Echo wrote:I know right? I haven't yet figured out why they already give you XP for everything, kills, assists, caps, healing, ammo, EVERYTHING yet they use some silly system on the scoreboard. I mean 2 points for kills, 1 point for this thing and that thing. Why didn't they just put the scoreboard in with the stats that most ask for and then MAKE YOUR TOTAL SCORE THE SAME AS XP. That way you're not leaving 60% of what you do off the score chart....and On topic...Paik needs a huge nerf...or better yet, the ability removed entirely...
Because, seemingly, that functionality was lost with the engine update and this scoreboard is the best they could cobble together in 5 months.
Which sucks, but this is the DICE Quality(TM) we should expect nowadays. I'm still surprised they launched this and said, "Yep, this is fine. No further work needed."
Like...I know DICE devs play 2042 and all but like...have they played prior BF games? Why is this scoreboard so radically different than previous games? Why is it seemingly designed to incentivize folks juicing their KDA's instead of incentivizing players to engage in activities that contribute towards their overall XP, which both helps them progress through levels faster and is more likely to help the team overall.
It's another in the, "This is a game designed for the solo player and DICE has seemingly forgotten how to promote effective teamplay, even if players rarely engaged with it." problem all over again. I'm not gonna pretend players were all team players in previous BF's, we know they weren't. But the design was at least there to encourage that gameplay and rewards those that participated.
- ElliotLH3 years agoHero+
@Psubond wrote:
@ElliotLH wrote:
Don't really see much of a problem with the spot putting her on the map too. It might actually be a decent tradeoff.
that's the way it used to be but they changed it in the most recent patch
Good to know @Psubond. I rarely play her and must have missed it in the notes.