As a Battlefield lover and old dogfighter, I loved Battlefield because jet mechanics in BF3/4,I asked you please to return that mechanics system to the game or bring a new mechanics that the dogfighters should control jet's speed to get fast turn,BF1/V was not that satisfying mechanics, players with 2 weeks experience can only hold the space bar and loop against 8 years experience player,you take too much time to get behind your enemy, BF1/V has no skills at all they depends who has pilots more than the other team,Dogfighter in all platforms still renting servers and playing dogfight everyday, I have a dogfight server for more than 3 years and I love it like the otherBF4 released in 2013 until today we love playing dogfight , I love to see BATTLEFIELD2042 has control speed so we can play 9 years more in the a new game.Thanks and best Regards.

@CyberDymeI was not saying aircraft would not be in the game, I was stating that sharing our experiences with them as well as any specifics about the controls, performance, etc. is prohibited for now.

@iomar-blu Unfortunately, there has been no official information regarding aircraft flight dynamics or controls in Battlefield 2042. To be clear, the answer to your question is known, but is still behind NDA.I strongly suspect we will have aircraft in the Beta and will know more then.

@carsono311 wrote:@iomar-bluUnfortunately, there has been no official information regarding aircraft flight dynamics or controls in Battlefield 2042. To be clear, the answer to your question is known, but is still behind NDA.I strongly suspect we will have aircraft in the Beta and will know more then.Hey @carsono311 ,Think its OK to confirm that YES, we will have both helis, jets, various aircrafts in the BF2042 game, as they have been shown fine in the reveals already. 😎Regarding the speed controls that @iomar-blu asks about, we can debate on how they could be better versus aka what we had in BF4, which he refers to. Personally I found it a bit too simplistic with just the 313 mark for optimal dog fighting. It shouldn't be just a question about who is best to keep the speed at 313 will win the fight.Also the aerodynamics should be more demanding when doing the various maneuverings. Aka in the past you could slow abruptly down or keep hanging midway through a barrel roll and the airplane would still like just keep hang there in mid air. Aka, the stall effect was not really there as it ought to be.Another aspect we would enjoy having is the g-LOC effect on the pilot. We ought to have a loss of conscious if entering into high g's for extended periods of time. Different real-life scenarios of this could fairly easily be implemented. So a progressive sequence of these manifested by aka:tunnel visionsome level of "greyout"blackouts (you stay conscious, but vision is truly lost for a temporary period of time until you manage to relieve on the g's)and then last the full on g-LOC, where also consciousness is lost, so you also loose the handling/control on your stick at that, and your survival will depend on your trajectory and enemy actions till you may recover.Adding proper stall effect on the aircraft and g-force effect on the pilot would dramatically increase the strategic options we have for great dogfights and make it about much more than just who is best on the speed control...

@ElliotLH Thank you brother, my bad

@carsono311 wrote:@CyberDymeI was not saying aircraft would not be in the game, I was stating that sharing our experiences with them as well as any specifics about the controls, performance, etc. is prohibited for now.My bad @carsono311 ,Can see that I jumped the gun, as see now that you also just indirect referred to if we would have aircrafts in the Beta or not! 😀Personally I find that all the various vehicles and the gameplay with them is one of the absolute core features that makes Battlefield very special. So would expect that EA would include a bit from each of the main weapons categories and vehicle types to be in the beta, so we (and EA) gets the first taste of how they all gel together in the gameplay.

Please return 313 speed control to jet back

16 Replies

ElliotLH
Hero+
4 years ago
@iomar-blu I've moved your topic to the 2042 forum.
iomar-blu
4 years ago
@ElliotLH Thank you brother, my bad
ElliotLH
Hero+
4 years ago
@iomar-blu You're all good - I just figured your topic would get more responses here 🙂
Its_Travis_199
Hero+
4 years ago
@iomar-blu
I remember those days from BF4 too where you had a way faster turn if you hit the sweet spot of the jets speed.
And as you said, it actually shows the skill and experience of the player if he is used to this sweet spot and gets behind your jet really quickly.
In BF1 and BFV probably the more old styled setting might didn't really offer that much freedom for the team to fit it into the Plane handling. As we also didn't had such a modern digital display in the cockpit were it could have been shown at.
And as we will be able to also fly Jets in 2042 again, they might have a sweet spot again too.
But as this speed sweet spot wasn't really mentioned to be a thing back then in BF4 too, i don't think anyone will or can confirm it by now.
It was more like figured out by the players themselves as they were continue flying Jets and getting better, more experienced and started testing new tactics in dogfights.
But as soon as we get hands on the Beta, you most likely will be able to test out some jets too.
Greets,
Travis
carsono311
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@iomar-blu Unfortunately, there has been no official information regarding aircraft flight dynamics or controls in Battlefield 2042. To be clear, the answer to your question is known, but is still behind NDA.

I strongly suspect we will have aircraft in the Beta and will know more then.
CyberDyme
4 years ago
@carsono311 wrote:
@iomar-bluUnfortunately, there has been no official information regarding aircraft flight dynamics or controls in Battlefield 2042. To be clear, the answer to your question is known, but is still behind NDA.

I strongly suspect we will have aircraft in the Beta and will know more then.
Hey @carsono311 ,
Think its OK to confirm that YES, we will have both helis, jets, various aircrafts in the BF2042 game, as they have been shown fine in the reveals already. 😎
Regarding the speed controls that @iomar-blu asks about, we can debate on how they could be better versus aka what we had in BF4, which he refers to. Personally I found it a bit too simplistic with just the 313 mark for optimal dog fighting. It shouldn't be just a question about who is best to keep the speed at 313 will win the fight.
Also the aerodynamics should be more demanding when doing the various maneuverings. Aka in the past you could slow abruptly down or keep hanging midway through a barrel roll and the airplane would still like just keep hang there in mid air. Aka, the stall effect was not really there as it ought to be.
Another aspect we would enjoy having is the g-LOC effect on the pilot. We ought to have a loss of conscious if entering into high g's for extended periods of time. Different real-life scenarios of this could fairly easily be implemented. So a progressive sequence of these manifested by aka:
tunnel vision
some level of "greyout"
blackouts (you stay conscious, but vision is truly lost for a temporary period of time until you manage to relieve on the g's)
and then last the full on g-LOC, where also consciousness is lost, so you also loose the handling/control on your stick at that, and your survival will depend on your trajectory and enemy actions till you may recover.
Adding proper stall effect on the aircraft and g-force effect on the pilot would dramatically increase the strategic options we have for great dogfights and make it about much more than just who is best on the speed control...
carsono311
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@CyberDymeI was not saying aircraft would not be in the game, I was stating that sharing our experiences with them as well as any specifics about the controls, performance, etc. is prohibited for now.
abuuu66543234
4 years ago
I agree that the speedcontrol be included in the jet gameplay
midhat245_-_-
4 years ago
I want that DICE includes speed control because jets shouldn't be that easy to fly
CyberDyme
4 years ago
@carsono311 wrote:
@CyberDymeI was not saying aircraft would not be in the game, I was stating that sharing our experiences with them as well as any specifics about the controls, performance, etc. is prohibited for now.
My bad @carsono311 ,
Can see that I jumped the gun, as see now that you also just indirect referred to if we would have aircrafts in the Beta or not! 😀
Personally I find that all the various vehicles and the gameplay with them is one of the absolute core features that makes Battlefield very special. So would expect that EA would include a bit from each of the main weapons categories and vehicle types to be in the beta, so we (and EA) gets the first taste of how they all gel together in the gameplay.