I don't usually just spam other peoples YT videos but Stodeh has nailed it here, this definitely debunks the whole "you played the Beta so you knew what you were getting into" argument. There are some very clear discrepencies between the original trailer, the Beta and then the actual game.
@RipGroove99Was that not apparent from information that was available pre release, though? The reveal of the specialist system should had set off every internal alarm ever to franchise fans.
The only reason I do not completely hate the specialists is that I like being free in my kit choices (though I absolutely loathe their avatars).
The only thing that ended up being an outright lie/walkback between the actual game and the promotion is the full Player vs bot progression
@RipGroove99 Stodeh is a long time Battlefield creator and probably wished to give some support to his core franchise and hang in there, but I think he is down to the wire now. Having to point out so many prominent core gameplay and design mistakes is probably very disappointing. Take a look at Stodeh here in 2016 at the Battlefield 1 premiere and see the difference in how clear of a vision devs at DICE had with Battlefield 1 and the initial speech by Patrick Söderlund (27:40). Different devs, different game.
What amazes me is how little DICE chose built on the foundation of Battlefield with what the previous devs had built up with older titles when taking into account how many of the current devs were new to the franchise and had only a few years experience at the studio. When Patrick Söderlund left EA in 2018 he took with him many talents and DICE kept bleeding talent to his new founded studio long after and even up until recently. Great leaders bring together great talent and just like a movie is very much the director and actors, a game is very much the creative leadership and the devs. I think we have to look to other studios to find the quality we are used to from old DICE and simply follow the talent.
Initially the idea of a WW1 game was rejected by EA, but the talent at DICE at that time managed to put together a very convincing concept that promised to break new ground for the franchise and it really did. Battlefield 1 is the best game they ever made and it was at a peak time for the studio with talents coming together which enabled this to happen.
@RipGroove99 wrote:
@UP_HawxxeyeIf it was that apparent and super obvious what the game was going to be before launch the there wouldn't be so many unhappy customers.
Expectations are formed based on available information.
So lets see what we got:
So any of us that for this game either made the decision to buy in spite of being aware of all these facts (like me) or while being ignorant of these facts.
I am not saying that we are supposed to be happy with what 2042 is turning out to be right now. But I wish more of us also did the self reflection to pass a good portion of the blame to ourselves, because the warning signs I listed were well known for anyone who was not buying the their very first BF game.
It is a bit like investing in the the stock price of a certain company and hoping it will rise. One can both blame the ones who hyped them into investing as well as themselves for making the final decision into making the investment.
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:I would not say "you played the Beta so you knew what you were getting into"
I would say "you played launch state - BFV/BF1/BF4/BF3/[Insert EA Franchise title] so you knew what you were getting into
This best sums this up
