I think right now Boris is the less used specialist, after the last update Boris sentry gun is very weak and is ability is sort of a stationary one.Giving him a weaker ranger could mean giving players an option to use boris in a more aggressive way.Ranger as it is right now is a very silly idea of gameplay is not fun to use or to get kills with it, but giving it to Boris could be a funnier way to implement it.

@CountSero Yep as far as I am concerned boris has turned into a complete non entity in this game and is the weakest specialist by far

@UP_Hawxxeye Same could be said with the turrets…… It’s only as good as the opposing player but people simply could not be bothered shooting it then complained when it killed them.Boris is basically just a specialist without any specialisation that’s even remotely effective

@emerson1975 I didn't care for the silhouetted "highlighting" spotting through walls mechanic it had but the damage was ok IMHO.The nerf hammer drops a little too hard sometimes.

@emerson1975 Having a little robot with a flamethrower would be so awesome and terrifying in a hilarious way. Something like the flamethrower pistol in V in the mouth of a robot shaped like a pot bellied pig. Tiny stubby legs, it’s slow but so low to the ground it’s hard to hit. You release it into a room and carnage ensures lol

I happen to think the Ranger is in a good spot.It’s supposed to be a “vehicle”’of sorts. You use up your vehicle call in and all call ins go on cool down so the Ranger shouldn’t be easily taken out. - All you have to do is break line of sight vs Ranger and problem solved.- if you’re getting shot at by a Ranger keep moving and run laterally(not straight towards or away from). Ranger’s terrible at tracking targets that are moving laterally from its location. - Take out Ranger’s owner, stay out of line of sight and he goes away once the owner bleeds out.- If you’re at low health and he finishes you off with one or two hits then that’s just bad luck.- If you try to stand there and go 1 v 1 with your primary weapon you should lose every time(see “vehicle”‘statement above”) and that’s on you.- C5, EMP Grenade, frag grenade and AT rocket one shot Ranger. If Ranger is that much of a game changer to you, you should always have at least a frag grenade reserved just for Ranger. IMO if you dumb down Ranger any more or nerf it’s health, it’s not even worth calling in. At that point it’s a waste of space and a waste of development time.

ranger should be weaker and could be a Boris ability

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Psubond
Legend
3 years ago
@bevvoo wrote:
I think right now Boris is the less used specialist, after the last update Boris sentry gun is very weak and is ability is sort of a stationary one.
Giving him a weaker ranger could mean giving players an option to use boris in a more aggressive way.
Ranger as it is right now is a very silly idea of gameplay is not fun to use or to get kills with it, but giving it to Boris could be a funnier way to implement it.
i would say no. we don't need more rangers running around
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@bevvooI like your idea, but I think I rather see less of the Ranger. Only two are able to be active per team at a time currently? It would be kinda cool to be able to choose between the turret or a Ranger, but the problem is how do you limit that without it feeling clunky. If several people are playing Boris and they want to use the Ranger, but can't, how does that feel in practice?

I started a thread saying how the Ranger shouldn't be in the game at all, but some people brought up an interesting idea:

It could maybe be reworked to carry ammo. I like this idea, and after thinking about it, they could add more features like disarming mines or something.

I also don't like the range of how far it can spot people. It should be toned down a bit.
Echo6Echo
3 years ago
@RaginSam wrote:
@bevvooI like your idea, but I think I rather see less of the Ranger. Only two are able to be active per team at a time currently? It would be kinda cool to be able to choose between the turret or a Ranger, but the problem is how do you limit that without it feeling clunky. If several people are playing Boris and they want to use the Ranger, but can't, how does that feel in practice?

I started a thread saying how the Ranger shouldn't be in the game at all, but some people brought up an interesting idea:

It could maybe be reworked to carry ammo. I like this idea, and after thinking about it, they could add more features like disarming mines or something.

I also don't like the range of how far it can spot people. It should be toned down a bit.
Question about that....if it carries ammo, what would be the point of an ammo crate or Angel? It's already hard enough to get T1 without everyone having a robot following them around carrying ammo. I do agree about the distance nerf...it's insane how far it can see you through smoke, trees, buildings, etc.
RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Echo6Echo
I’m not sure how it would work, but I like the idea of things being reworked or balanced instead of just removing them.

I’d rather see it carry ammo and still be limited to two out at a time then shooting at people. It’s a little redundant, but I don’t think that’s really a problem either.

I don’t think it should be tied to any specialist to be clear. I like your idea, but I just don’t see it working into the game nicely.
ElliotLH
Hero+
3 years ago
How about if he had an EOD bot for repairing vehicles?
Echo6Echo
3 years ago
@ElliotLH wrote:
How about if he had an EOD bot for repairing vehicles?
If it replaces auto regen on a vehicle maybe...please not "in addition to".
ElliotLH
Hero+
3 years ago
@Echo6Echo The health on vehicles auto regenerating doesn't really bother me too much, but I wouldn't be averse to going back to a system like in BF1. I was thinking in addition to though, simply as such a gadget might not be used as much as the turret.
CountSero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@bevvooi totally disagree here,

first the ranger is good as it is and second boris needs his sentry

I used the ranger often and I have only around 210 since release, so I think this thing is far from overpowered. (With 430+ hours on the clock)
Also, there can only two of them active on each team, which is a good balance I would say (on 128p conquest I would say they should increase the limit up to 3-4 per team)

If you die on a ranger, you were already low on life which is unlucky but if you die on full health, you are not aware of your surroundings.

Also, DICE should set back the Sentry to the old values and only remove the 3D spotting and all would be fine. With the nerf DICE killed Boris and his gadget, there are only some few players which are brave enough to use him while trying to get a T1.

Before the nerf you could play offensive with Boris (I played him as a main till T1), you could also use the Sentry as a distraction while flanking a flag spot. Many players forget that most of the gadget could be picked up, when you do this, you can move it quickly around without cooldown.

Also sentry guns are not new, there where already in BF2142.

I’m also the opinion removing and nerfing things in BF2042 is not the solution. DICE needs to learn how to balance, this also includes the courage to strengthen other things instead of making everything weaker.
emerson1975
3 years ago
@CountSero Yep as far as I am concerned boris has turned into a complete non entity in this game and is the weakest specialist by far
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
3 years ago
How good a ranger is is inversely proportional to how bad the opposition is.
Giving Boris a Ranger Chihuahua would be fun though