Re: False positive bans
@QU4NT0R Climbing the containers is not an exploit (unless you use the bug to jump in, which is not the case here), it was enough to jump on a car or a tank and you were already immortal
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Now its one month later.... I never get all my data cause EA tells me the little JSON is everything they have and there is nothing about a BAN Reason. i contacted now the EU consumer center and they help me... Lets see what i can get.
Not 100% sure but consoles don't utilize EAC or any sort of anticheat. I believe console bans are manually looked at after x amount of reports and the users whole account is banned so they lose their entire xbox or playstation account/games etc. Devices like the Cronus Zen(check this out xD) are undetectable and used across many highly competitive titles like Rainbow Six Siege on console for years and nobody gets banned.
Every time I see the ignorant console only player reply of "CHEATERS ARE PC ONLY." Just cringe to be so uneducated in 2022, you and I have the same access to google.com :P
Console hackers are rampant you just can't prove it because they are HARDWARE level undetectable LOL.
There looks like there might be movement on this topic in the coming weeks. TBH if EA admit to their false bans I legit want a refund, or some sort of insane compensation in the form of crap in game i guess.
@VandaLzA wrote:Not 100% sure but consoles don't utilize EAC or any sort of anticheat. I believe console bans are manually looked at after x amount of reports and the users whole account is banned so they lose their entire xbox or playstation account/games etc. Devices like the Cronus Zen(check this out xD) are undetectable and used across many highly competitive titles like Rainbow Six Siege on console for years and nobody gets banned.
Every time I see the ignorant console only player reply of "CHEATERS ARE PC ONLY." Just cringe to be so uneducated in 2022, you and I have the same access to google.com :P
Console hackers are rampant you just can't prove it because they are HARDWARE level undetectable LOL.
There looks like there might be movement on this topic in the coming weeks. TBH if EA admit to their false bans I legit want a refund, or some sort of insane compensation in the form of crap in game i guess.
I think you misunderstood what we were talking about.
We were talking about an exploit on Kaleidoscope that a lot of people think is the reason they got banned. The exploit has been widely used on both PC and Console though, and what I was saying is that if that exploit was really the reason for any bans, we would have seen console players getting banned to, and not just PC players@BizzyVaping100% I don't for a second believe anyone got banned for farming bots. If you used an exploit(don't know if it was) present on all platforms EA would have a far bigger crap storm then the current false ban issue.
I have no clue what the farming method is as I have never used portal or whatever mode let's you farm bots. The issue is due to EA's massive lack of communication and the ever growing number of false bans people are grasping at straws to justify EA's actions.If a player is banned, especially on such an expensive game, the SPECIFIC ban reason should be in that communication of the ban, in giving the reason if the player was false banned they can now peruse action to clear their name, if the cheater gets caught for say aimbot and you say that you caught them for aimbot, how is that helping cheat makers? The person was cheating and got banned so obviously its because of the cheat xD. I don't think a single person here has asked EA the METHOD in which they caught them in the first dispute at least, but every bot response seems to think that is the question.
EA seem to apply the logic "WELL THE CHEATERS SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY DID WE TOTALLY CAUGHT YOU LOL"
@VandaLzA wrote:@BizzyVaping100% I don't for a second believe anyone got banned for farming bots. If you used an exploit(don't know if it was) present on all platforms EA would have a far bigger crap storm then the current false ban issue.
I have no clue what the farming method is as I have never used portal or whatever mode let's you farm bots. The issue is due to EA's massive lack of communication and the ever growing number of false bans people are grasping at straws to justify EA's actions.It was a spot at the last objective on Breakthrough/Kaleidoscope in SOLO/COOP mode. If you crouched down behind some ventilation pipes the AI wouldn't be able to see you/wouldn't shoot at you, meaning you could get upwards of 400+ kills per round in that one spot and unlock all attachments for a gun in one round.
It has been patched a while ago though
@VandaLzA wrote:If a player is banned, especially on such an expensive game, the SPECIFIC ban reason should be in that communication of the ban, in giving the reason if the player was false banned they can now peruse action to clear their name, if the cheater gets caught for say aimbot and you say that you caught them for aimbot, how is that helping cheat makers? The person was cheating and got banned so obviously its because of the cheat xD. I don't think a single person here has asked EA the METHOD in which they caught them in the first dispute at least, but every bot response seems to think that is the question.
EA seem to apply the logic "WELL THE CHEATERS SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY DID WE TOTALLY CAUGHT YOU LOL"
The problem with telling a hacker/modder why he got banned is that If people on the hack suppliers sites start comparing notes (and they obviously will) then they can figure out which hacks are traceable and in the end figure out why/how they are traced.
The gaming companies don't want to give out any info that could help them make something undetectable.- @BizzyVaping I didn't use the kaleidoscope exploit, didn't climb into any containers or to any spot that couldnt be reached(unless grappling up top of the cranes is exploiting...). Either way from what I can tell no one on console got banned like the PC players have been, which is utter bs because you cant treat one client/customer one way and another completely different...
What you people are talking about is not relevant at all..... it doesnt help anybody in this thread, the reasons are unknown and honestly all we want to do is get unbanned, I dont know which software got me banned or even what got me banned im not even the best of players like some of you would probably say the same about yourself and agree we have been banned unfairly, which is a huge problem even after a full month of me being banned and all the negative reviews about the game i still am passionate and want to play it, i am not looking for a refund nor will i buy this game again, I want my account unbanned just like the rest of you... and bickering on what caused this or what console and pc players differentiate between bans doesnt have any relevent information to get us unbanned. keep contacting any person you can, im waiting on my reply from ecc of switzerland he said only yesterday morning he will contact EA hopefully I get unbanned, I suggest you all show the same passion and not give up.
@staticsys wrote:
@BizzyVapingI didn't use the kaleidoscope exploit, didn't climb into any containers or to any spot that couldnt be reached(unless grappling up top of the cranes is exploiting...). Either way from what I can tell no one on console got banned like the PC players have been, which is utter bs because you cant treat one client/customer one way and another completely different...They obviously don't treat people different depending on platform.
The fact that there's no banned console players seems like pretty clear evidence that none of the bans were for XP farming.
Must be something else...
It is likely some third party software that is beeing flagged by the anti-cheat (Would also explain why its not happening on console)https://www.earlygame.com/battlefield/battlefield-2042-free-to-play/
Tom tweeted about it as well so... not only do they steal our money now they are making it free (or at the very least its a conversation).
- @VandaLzA It used to happen all the time when ban waves come out……. as soon as members of cheat sites find out what they are banned for they go straight back to the cheat provider and tell them that the hacks are detected!
This is actively encouraged so the cheat provider can then work away around to circumvent the anti cheat to keep one step ahead. - @BizzyVaping There’s no way to run unsigned code on console so you can’t cheat
Ah there is our troll with the "This is actively encouraged so the cheat provider can then work away around to circumvent the anti cheat to keep one step ahead."
Dude seriouslyMy chargeback was accepted today,money back in my account.I only had bf3,bf4,bf1,bfv on the account(has been deactivated,lol.)I have over 1000 hours in each game so no big deal.Ea\DICE needs to pay for what they have done and this is the only way for a normal person to hurt them.This webpage,EA/DICE can EAT SAND.
@ItsOnlyM3-NL wrote:
Ah there is our troll again with the "This is actively encouraged so the cheat provider can then work away around to circumvent the anti cheat to keep one step ahead."
Dude seriouslyHe's not wrong though.
That is the one and only reason companies don't specify bans.
They don't want to give cheaters too much info to compare as that could lead to them figuring out what hacks are detecable and how they are detected.
Sadly that policy will negatively effect people who were unfairly banned to as they can't get aswers either.- @BizzyVaping Yeah, their system has more holes than a swiss cheese. My main account got banned on the 3rd december wave. Now I got more hours playd on my new acc, and no ban. And I havent changed a thing in my system. Still ghub is on, because I didnt bother to not make it start with my system. Maybe when they will see that the game is almost dead they will look in to how to get people back to the game and check those false ban allegations... I can see that there propably werent any more ban waves after 3rd december, just random bans because there is less and less new people comming around to this thread. So maybe they fixed their sh**, but they could also look back on us.
@BizzyVaping wrote:
@ItsOnlyM3-NL wrote:
Ah there is our troll again with the "This is actively encouraged so the cheat provider can then work away around to circumvent the anti cheat to keep one step ahead."
Dude seriouslyHe's not wrong though.
That is the one and only reason companies don't specify bans.
They don't want to give cheaters too much info to compare as that could lead to them figuring out what hacks are detecable and how they are detected.
Sadly that policy will negatively effect people who were unfairly banned to as they can't get aswers either.i don’t think that entirely correct. If the EAC banning integration is correctly working and picking cheats like aimbots and banning these cheaters, their entire subscribed user based would be banned and they would be complaining to the cheat makers. So they would know straight away their cheats are been detected.
I see no harm in at least giving banned users little
more info why they were banned. Was it for cheats, exploit or misconduct in chat. At least that way any falsely banned users at least have something to on and try and prove their innocent.
@BizzyVaping wrote:
@ItsOnlyM3-NL wrote:
Ah there is our troll again with the "This is actively encouraged so the cheat provider can then work away around to circumvent the anti cheat to keep one step ahead."
Dude seriouslyHe's not wrong though.
That is the one and only reason companies don't specify bans.
They don't want to give cheaters too much info to compare as that could lead to them figuring out what hacks are detecable and how they are detected.
Sadly that policy will negatively effect people who were unfairly banned to as they can't get aswers either.i don’t think that entirely correct. If the EAC banning integration is correctly working and picking cheats like aimbots and banning these cheaters, their entire subscribed user based would be banned and they would be complaining to the cheat makers. So they would know straight away their cheats are been detected.
I see no harm in at least giving banned users little
more info why they were banned. Was it for cheats, exploit or misconduct in chat. At least that way any falsely banned users at least have something to on and try and prove their innocent.
- @BizzyVaping Stop spreading this faulty logic. It's so old and flawed by now and people and devs should have figured out that the cheat providers are far smarter than this. The little info they would get from EA confirming that a user have been banned from aimbot software, or injection tools, what difference do you actually think it would make? 100% sure they already know that before the ban.
Maybe you should question the logic of making this free to play instead. That will make the cheaters (and the cheat providers) flood the game instantly as they can continue creating new free accounts after every ban? Warzones biggest issue as of today. And to add, I'm personally lucky to know EA's reason to ban me, but there is alot of people here struggling and speculating around the five given possible causes from the e-mail.
If I'd give a qualified guess almost everyone in this thread have been banned for false positives stating injection "tools". I highly doubt EA/DICE have any game automation/logic or manpower capacity to handle and evaluate farming or boosting at this point in time, or since launch. They dont even have capacity to check their support e-mail or handle the GDPR requests.
@indi81 wrote:
@BizzyVapingStop spreading this faulty logic. It's so old and flawed by now and people and devs should have figured out that the cheat providers are far smarter than this. The little info they would get from EA confirming that a user have been banned from aimbot software, or injection tools, what difference do you actually think it would make? 100% sure they already know that before the ban.
Maybe you should question the logic of making this free to play instead. That will make the cheaters (and the cheat providers) flood the game instantly as they can continue creating new free accounts after every ban? Warzones biggest issue as of today.@BizzyVaping I agree with you. Cheat developers are mostly reverse engineering professionals working in cybersecurity field (malware analysis etc). They do not need the help and feedback of their "clients".
@indi81 wrote:And to add, I'm personally lucky to know EA's reason to ban me, but there is alot of people here struggling and speculating around the five given possible causes from the e-mail.
If I'd give a qualified guess almost everyone in this thread have been banned for false positives stating injection "tools". I highly doubt EA/DICE have any game automation/logic or manpower capacity to handle and evaluate farming or boosting at this point in time, or since launch. They dont even have capacity to check their support e-mail or handle the GDPR requests.Indeed. I had a conversation with an EA representative and she warned me that the processing of my SAR would take more than a month. They can't handle GDPR requests in time.
Once caught, a paying cheat customer will not investigate the reason behind the ban to help the cheat developer. He will instead spread the following words: "This cheat developer is cr** and his cheats are cr**. Do not buy from him" you know ?.
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