Re: Keyboard and mouse on consoles
@Lancelot_du_Lac A quick Google search reveals that a XIM Apex PS5 firmware update was released 8 months ago......
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- @Trokey66 Had a deeper look at the Xim forums about this. The firmware update was only for 3rd party controllers, and only applies to PS4 games played on PS5. All new PS5 games require a DualSense controller.
To quote a MVP on the Xim forums:
"Cronus will have the same problem. No-one can bypass the DualSense requirement and the communication protocol can’t be cracked because all packets are encrypted and timestamped.
XIM APEX never fully supported PS5 and no new game support was promised...
We’ve been warning about this happening on PS5 for over a year. If you want next-gen game support for XIM, get an Xbox."
And from the Titan forums:
"… the DualSense's controller communication protocol with the PS5 console. It looks uncrackable due to encryption and timestamped packets. So a DualSense won't be spoofed, which is needed to launch PS5 games...
Call of Duty and Battlefield will both have "Trigger Effects Required", which means only a DualSense controller directly connected to the console will work." @Lancelot_du_LacFair shout, I didn't go into it that deep. Good news though......
@Lancelot_du_Lachey in call of duty cold war/vanguard have native support kb+m you don't need xim/cronus 🙂
Many use xim and chronus regardless of m/kb native support because they get the benefit of aim assist and mouse precision aiming.
Giving m/kb native support won’t stop xim users!
- @emerson1975 But it also won't force an ordinary person to buy this device 🙂
- @emerson1975 There are people who use it as M&K and there are people who use it to cheat. Cheaters are going to cheat no matter what but the people who use it only to play with a M&K will no longer have to. This also ensures there is less Cronus users joining a controller lobby.
- @ZjemCiKolege Even new COD have m&k support. If it was problematic then devs would have removed this feature. It's a very useful feature for lot of us and helped me enjoy warzone. Please add m&k support to battlefield 2042 on consoles. Input based lobby is fine too so controllers don't feel attacked by this.
Guys, keep in mind that when you enable KB&Mouse on console the Aim assist is automatically turned off by the game, there's nothing to worry about.
Actually the Xim stuff is cheating, because then the console is not aware that you use mouse and keyboard and you keep the aim assist.
By the way, I have opened Feature request regarding this in different part of the forum (before this one was created), you can check it here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/EA-Play-Console/FRQ-Battlefield-2048-Mouse-amp-Keyboard-for-PS5-Xbox-SeriesX/m-p/10431235
Eventually upvoting posts like mine, may gather some dev attention.
I'm all for options, but I'd rather not roll against ppl using anything other than controllers.
All in all, it's not the end of the world if I'm going up against k&m ppl with my PS5 controller.
I roll to have fun, talk sht and chill..... not be honored with a star on the sidewalk hall of fame for gamers....due to my 'Captain fantastic' K/D ratio.
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@SOCOMDEATHDEALRController users will have the option to opt out of playing with PCs already.
Ideally there should be two lobbies. One is a controller only lobby and the other a crossplay lobby. Controller only lobbies should have xbox series s/x and ps5 controller users playing together. M&K console users should only be restricted to crossplay lobbies with PC (and sprinkle of PS/Xbox controller users who decide to not opt out). Should fix your problem.When using a mouse do you navigate round the menu options etc using the mouse like you would on PC?
Seriously hope K&M support is coming on this game (XSX) as I just can’t play with a controller.
- @8AR5TADOX In warzone you can use m&k in the menu and also in game. I think battlefield will be like that too if devs added m&k support. I too have trouble playing fps with controller. m&k helps me a ton. It is a request that don't hurt anybody and only help so many people. I hope the devs add it.
Yes add kb&m support please for consoles. Controller is only good for third person kind of games. FPS is best with kb&m so please support.
Yes please have kb&m support for the consoles. overwatch and cod have them too. Controller is only good for third person kind of games. FPS is good with kb&m so please add support.
@xC4rbonDoesn't hurt anybody? Have you not heard of the word balance before? Or unfair advantage. I agree with the people who have said to put k&m users in only lobbies with PC players, but they can't play against strictly console only users sing controllers while using a m&k.
Input based lobbies are a must if they do decide to add m&k to consoles.
- @TankerFlanker He has explicitly said *different* lobbies multiple times. We don't want to play in a controller lobby with a M&K either. We are requesting to be able to play with a M&K because we are used to it and we find playing FPS with a controller difficult and NOT because we want to dominate controller users. And we even presented solutions so controller experience isn't hurt.
now we agree. This Dice, this is how it should be.
- @FireExhauster Not everyone, but yeah I agree if this will be how they handle things, it might not even have it it's weird they've been so quiet about it.
- @TankerFlanker The dev's lack of communication isn't unique to this feature which gives me a little bit of hope. Halo infinite has native M&K support for xbox and the new COD has M&K and FOV slider for both consoles. And they are two of the three biggest MP FPS coming out this year (the other one is battlefield of you are wondering). I really hope this game supports it too. A M&K support means more to a lot of us than the devs realize.
DICE please. The only people who are against it are controller users who don't want to go against M&K users which is fair. Just put us in a crossplay lobby and remove ability to opt out of it for us. Simple fix. Two different lobbies. No different to how the devs have originally planned. @FireExhausterEA may be quiet on this topic because announcing M/K support would hurt PC game sales. Lots of people including myself for bail on PC and go pick up a PS5. If I were to bet, I'd say 2042 will have native M/K support.
- @-Antares65z- Isn't xbox the official console for battlefield 2042? Announcing M&K for consoles would increase their sales on these consoles wouldn't it? Besides I guess they roughly make the same amount of money from selling PC or console copies. I really hope native M&K is supported. We'll see in the beta I guess. I wish the devs are more transparent about this.
- @FireExhauster I don't recall any mention of K&M support from those that had played the Technical Playtest on Xbox. It could still be included, but...
- My friend told me that he could use the keyboard when using SERIES S in the technical test, but the mouse seemed to be out of order.
- @TuiskuSuomaa Both consoles support mouse (not sure) and keyboard and so you should be able to use them once you plug them in. Some games that the devs don't care adding native M&K can still work but the functionality differs from game to game. Not sure of the entire reason. The firmware allows it. It's just the devs that need to take action.
Please allow us to play battlefield 2042 with M&K on PS5
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