R.I.P Battlefield.
Well, what can I say? As a long, die hard fan of battlefield over the years you, EA/Dice really have let go of the steering wheel and veered right over a sheer cliff drop. What a shame. Not o...
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"the product to progressively get better by adding additional experiences and features on top of the popular, successful features from previous games"
You are saying just that! Its not possible! All you will have is the same ol'* with a different smell.
Its also why you will never like 2042 or any other future BF until you let go of the past. I had to do it with other games. The industry is just not set up that way. All those devs and work stations cost tons of money that must be sustainable while the competition releasing the latest and the greatest.
Was 2042 an epic fail? Absolutely but not because in its self its not that bad of game. Bugs and issues? Yes and to be expected.
imo they just should have made a PC version and a console version separately.
All they managed to do is fail to appease on all fronts.
Will they fix it? I think so.
Will it be a BF(inset version here) reboot? NO. NO and NO!
You are saying just that! Its not possible! All you will have is the same ol'* with a different smell.
Its also why you will never like 2042 or any other future BF until you let go of the past. I had to do it with other games. The industry is just not set up that way. All those devs and work stations cost tons of money that must be sustainable while the competition releasing the latest and the greatest.
Was 2042 an epic fail? Absolutely but not because in its self its not that bad of game. Bugs and issues? Yes and to be expected.
imo they just should have made a PC version and a console version separately.
All they managed to do is fail to appease on all fronts.
Will they fix it? I think so.
Will it be a BF(inset version here) reboot? NO. NO and NO!
@k1u73 It is obvious you are not understanding where I coming from. I'm sorry for my part in the miscommunication.
What I am speaking to is how you build and develop a new product in a line of products. No one is going to dismiss the differences between 1942 and BF2 or BF2 to BFBC2 or BFBC2 to BF3. Evolution of products is a result of competition. Competition isn't always with external competitors, it also includes competing against yourself. Ask any coach who has won multiple championships or the leaders of a fortune 500 company and they will tell you just that.
A thriving enterprise has to know and embrace what they do well, especially if it seperates them from competition. Providing service to customers who don't fit your competitors product is an example. It's as classic as Coke versus Pepsi or Ford versus Chevy.
What EA/Dice has done in 2042 is abandon much of its product progress over two decades. I'm speaking to lessons learned from previous games on the development side. Lessons learned from what their base customers prefer. Lessons learned from what drove customers away from their competitors. Instead of expanding or evolving on base/core gameplay they chose a path of reduction, devolution, and replacement. BF2042 doesn't seem like a step forward by any measure. Not in performance. Not graphically. Not in gameplay function. Not in content. Not in detail. Not in team play. Not in customization. If this was the cost of a short development cycle or expanding multiplayer match sizes then it is fair to ask why they thought these decisions would be more lucrative and appealing than the others.
Lastly, to play devils advocate to your main point about tossing lipstick on a pig like EA's Madden franchise, fans flocked to 2042 because they hoped the game would be more like BF3 and BF4. The marketing team trumped up the comparisons and communicated how this game was going to be an evolution in the same vein as those games.
So, even if I was asking for a re-release of a previous BF game (I'm not) or a game as close as possible to BF3 or BF4, isn't EA/Dice responsible for markteting to that? Shouldn't they be accountable for drawing those comparisons for its customers? Ultimately, I think that is a resounding"Yes".
What I am speaking to is how you build and develop a new product in a line of products. No one is going to dismiss the differences between 1942 and BF2 or BF2 to BFBC2 or BFBC2 to BF3. Evolution of products is a result of competition. Competition isn't always with external competitors, it also includes competing against yourself. Ask any coach who has won multiple championships or the leaders of a fortune 500 company and they will tell you just that.
A thriving enterprise has to know and embrace what they do well, especially if it seperates them from competition. Providing service to customers who don't fit your competitors product is an example. It's as classic as Coke versus Pepsi or Ford versus Chevy.
What EA/Dice has done in 2042 is abandon much of its product progress over two decades. I'm speaking to lessons learned from previous games on the development side. Lessons learned from what their base customers prefer. Lessons learned from what drove customers away from their competitors. Instead of expanding or evolving on base/core gameplay they chose a path of reduction, devolution, and replacement. BF2042 doesn't seem like a step forward by any measure. Not in performance. Not graphically. Not in gameplay function. Not in content. Not in detail. Not in team play. Not in customization. If this was the cost of a short development cycle or expanding multiplayer match sizes then it is fair to ask why they thought these decisions would be more lucrative and appealing than the others.
Lastly, to play devils advocate to your main point about tossing lipstick on a pig like EA's Madden franchise, fans flocked to 2042 because they hoped the game would be more like BF3 and BF4. The marketing team trumped up the comparisons and communicated how this game was going to be an evolution in the same vein as those games.
So, even if I was asking for a re-release of a previous BF game (I'm not) or a game as close as possible to BF3 or BF4, isn't EA/Dice responsible for markteting to that? Shouldn't they be accountable for drawing those comparisons for its customers? Ultimately, I think that is a resounding"Yes".
@2Timothy3What my experience is with any and all of these gaming company's is they are like hookers...
In that they will tell you anything you want to hear for your 100 bucks...
and no you don't get kissed either!
All of ye should have expected that and lessons learned and when I say ALL of them that's what they ALL do...
Gamer's grow and mature and the next generation moves in and their music is a whole different sound than our old music...- @2Timothy3 Good to see someone mention Hinterland. I do some work for them 🙂
- @2Timothy3 Great! Now go play there I hate seeing grown men cry!
@k1u73 You know no one here is taking you serious, right? Not when you make outrageous comments like this. Not once did I disparage you. If your goal is to win the debate, then argue your point. Disparaging me or anyone in the middle of the debate is akin to raising a white flag while throwing a tantrum.
- @2Timothy3 That’s my entire point with all you crying about how bad this game is.
I will call you out on it bud as wtf are you even here?
I was never on some forum crying about how bad a game is.
You are not getting a refund and it’s not going to be any thing other than what is lmao
You poor man get over your self. Less than 1K viewers on Twitch for BF 2042 ! Dice do something, save the GAME !!!
- @k1u73 Well I haven't lost any sleep yet, nor have I shed any tears. The fact of the matter is this forum is more entertaining than the game. If you are enjoying the game so much why are you here? Shouldn't you be with the "millions" of other players too busy having a good time to be here? Or are you just lurking around these forums finding your own entertainment by being "that guy" who thinks he is cool "going against the grain" and being tough on the interwebs? Go ahead and respond with your next lame personal attack. Good to know I'm living in your head rent free.
@2Timothy3I have my game time in and have always been active for any game I play and like in what ever medium.
I don’t do all the hacks over at reddit though.
And racking up the XP too! You would be amazed at what the amount is just from this thread 😂- @DokoBG whatever they do it may take some time. I'm hoping they make some changes. Some think they can't do too much, but I do not believe that to be true. Ubisoft transformed GR: Breakpoint after the lashing they got from their community. Even Bethesda made some big changes to Fallout 76, though it still isn't any good compared to its other games. Cyber Punk 2077 is way better today than its messy launch. Just have to see how far EA/Dice want to go. I'm hopeful, but other EA games like their Madden franchise leave me cautious.
@2Timothy3There ya go now yer talk’n
Of course they are going to fix, tweak and make changes and update as time goes….
Roll with the changes…
