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UP_Hawxxeye
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4 years ago

Re: Remove the drone like you did with the shield

@Lvl_90_MudkipYou are overeacting and you also do it too late.

Todays patch makes the drone easier to see and hit.

Here is a compilation of me dealing with 5 drones pre patch. Even pre patch, I blame the rest of the team for deciding to ignore the enemy drones unless they buzz right on their face.

If you think that tanks are not in a good place, you should be asking for buffs to the tanks (such as making them faster at accelerating and turning their turrets to better accommodate aggressive tanking) instead of using the current tanks  as a reference point from which anything that is a threat to them needs to be nerfed.

I am all in for the changes that made the drones easier to stop once detected or to make the tanks faster, but removing the ability to put c5 on them just reduces the depth of the gameplay, which does against the Battlefield moment marketing of the game

19 Replies

  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    4 years ago

    @N3tRunn3rbecause of the patch today, I decided to treat any previous experience with the drones as outdated until I see for myself this afternoon.

    I am not sure how DICE can program a weight limit on a drone.

    I am still more annoyed from having my tank blown by M5 and especially Magical anti armor grenade spam than a drone with C5 here. At least that guy commited to just one thing instead of pulling out a counter at the drop of a hat between doing other things

  • Trokey66's avatar
    Trokey66
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    Just wait till we perfect the C5 Dozer shield.......

  • aksur83's avatar
    aksur83
    4 years ago

    I know its frustrating when you cant get 95 kill matches anymore with a sniper tank like in BF V. 

    There is so so many vehicles and their respawn time is far too short so its only good to have the option of taking them out effectively. In this game the infantry is the underdog anyway.

    And C5 is and supposed to be an effective explosive. 

    I havent destroyed any tank with C5, once tried to use C5 drone but didnt manage. Once i died in a C5 when i was in a tank and too close to the containers and that was my own fault, dont go close to containers you are a easy target to put C5

  • Lvl_90_Mudkip's avatar
    Lvl_90_Mudkip
    4 years ago

    @UP_Hawxxeye It's not an overreaction, how does it make any sense that the thing I should be most worried about is a drone instead of 62 other players with R5s and other utilities to deal with a tank? Explain that to me, because the tanks as they are now are fine if used correctly

    I have a TON of clips of me pushing in breakthrough just to be killed by some kid with a c5 drone and slapping it into my tank. How does that make sense? 

  • Lvl_90_Mudkip's avatar
    Lvl_90_Mudkip
    4 years ago
    @aksur83 It has nothing to do with "getting 95 kills sniping" I don't Chi snipe in a tank.

    I play aggresive. I'd have better luck sniping because I'd be out of the range of the drones. But playing aggressive your right there close and able to be removed by a drone and C5. Which is stupid.
  • aksur83's avatar
    aksur83
    4 years ago

    Just have to deal with it. 

    If you play infantry you have to look out snipers, tanks, jeeps, infantry, planes, choppers etc.

    If you play tank you have to look at the sky also. 

    Everyone need to have rockets or aa because there is too much all kind of vehicles. With infantry you dont have any kind of chance if there isnt multiple shooters with rockets or aa and even then its hard because you have to hit so many times...part disabled? what does it even mean? you hit three times more and tank just reverse and auto repair it self and come back and you die.

    With 128 players it is a big mess and everyone will die or explode all the time so just have to deal with it.  

  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    4 years ago

    @Lvl_90_Mudkip
    No the tanks are not fine, but a lot of their problems are steming from lacking agility in their tracks and turret.

    Another problem is how the vehicle spawn system works in this game: It penalizes you for losing the vehicle regardless of if it was your own fault or not and tries to let someone else get the next tank before you can. So it is understandable that one will be frustrated to lose your tanks

    When I am in a vehicle, my sources of grief are a lot more often coming from being spamed with rockets and homming grenades than drones. Sure it suuuuuucks to get that random death from above, but at least to me the frustration is focused on how hard it will be to get a new tank with those frustrating timer penalties and the fact that overal the tank slots are really few per team when considering that the map has 64 people per team.

    Perhaps if I had more chances to get a tank instead of a light vehicle or nothing , I could had time to get more frustrated with drones.


    Seeing how more effective and abundant the "light" vehicles are in the game right now, the first and foremost problem of the "armored" vehicles is their lower numbers and much more restricted movement.

    As about the C5 drones themselves, I can agree that they could use a change to make them carry less than the number of c5 needed to oneshot a tank, so 1 or 2 instead of 3.

    But I really dislike that title of this topic, disabling anything in the game should only be the result of a really desperate situation that affects everyone (like invincible soldiers, invincible bad company drone and rubberbanding) and not something that happens rarely to most people. This is why I called this an overreaction.

  • Lvl_90_Mudkip's avatar
    Lvl_90_Mudkip
    4 years ago
    @aksur83 If the team can't kill a tank that's 1 thing. But the solution isn't letting something broken like a drone with C5 to 1 shot kill it.

    Just because people haven't learned how to kill a tank doesn't mean the C5 drone needs to exist. It means the playerbase needs to learn. It's so easy to kill a tank, shoot a rocket into its engine deck. Boom disabled and now it moves slower. Shoot one into its tracks in specific spots boom now it can't move.

    There are SO MANY things that you can do. People just refuse to learn and figure it out.
  • Lvl_90_Mudkip's avatar
    Lvl_90_Mudkip
    4 years ago
    @UP_Hawxxeye But see that's where I disagree on. I have the T28 - M5 almost at T2. Along with I've played every battlefield ever made. I have like 18+ years of experience with this game. And I've mostly been centered around vehicles.

    I've never been as frustrated as I am now with how more and more rampant the C5 drone is getting at the very least in breakthrough as that is my main game mode.

    I don't mind R5 and made spam because I hardly die to it. It's easy to counter and avoid and deal with. Have a insta missle lock hut never had the lock on warning? It's a grander just full send in reverse or bail out and come back. R5s coming in? Keep moving and play aggressive but smart.

    The only problem I ever had was the jets with atgms. Until I figured out trees block their lockcon line of sight. They never became a problem again.

    What kills me the most at this point in the game? The C5 drone. I can avoid and adapt and overcome anything else and do every game. And if I do die to R5 or Sundance's tracking grenades that's on me and a mistake I made.

    However, how can I adapt to the drone? There's only one realistic way to do that. And that's snipe with the tank. And that is so ultimately boring and useless for the team.

    Now I will say it would be nice to see the track traverse speed buffed a little bit. But that's me being selfish and wanting the tank to be even more aggresive than it already is.
  • Lvl_90_Mudkip's avatar
    Lvl_90_Mudkip
    4 years ago
    @UP_Hawxxeye Also, I will agree that the vehicle timer is something that isn't needed. It doesn't do or add anything other than to give less skilled players an advantage to waste a tank or helly or etc.
  • BizzyVaping's avatar
    BizzyVaping
    4 years ago

    @Lvl_90_MudkipI still haven't been killed by a C5 drone in 75+ hours of playtime. The majority of that time has been on Breakthrough.

    I don't understand how you guys manage to get killed by them over and over again.

    The drones are damn near always spotted instantly by other drones, prox granades or manually by players. On top of that every vehicle in the game is way faster than the drone. It'll never catch you if you keep moving.

  • aksur83's avatar
    aksur83
    4 years ago
    @Lvl_90_Mudkip I think most of players know how to destroy a tank. Rockets are too underpower and in this game you have to shoot as quick as you can when you see the tank or its too late. Usually there isnt time or possibility try to go around because there is always 25 players and other vehicles going to shoot you. This whole game is so different than before. I have played every single one battlefield game before and a lot. Im used to be one of the top players or at least top of the kills most of the rounds, like 30-50 kills and 6-10 deaths and mostly play with infantry but in this its not gona happen no matter how good i am or used to be and yes it is frustrating. It is same with the tank you cant even think of being as dominant as in previous games. Drones are not broken, they are drones and this is Battlefield 2042 there will be drones. I thought drones would have rockets at least but now they are without guns, thats pretty lame also.

    And about tanks those machine guns are so undepower even my pistol is more effective. So devs have lot to do balancing the weapons and most important of all fix the hit reg as soon as possible it is horrible, totally unplayable with most of guns.
  • BizzyVaping's avatar
    BizzyVaping
    4 years ago

    @aksur83Tbh the tank machine guns beeing weak is actually balanced. 

    Giving people hiding in a tank super powerful machine guns would be the unbalanced thing to do. There has to be some drawbacks to it, or everyone would end up camping in the spawn menu waiting for tanks or helis. 

    Plenty of people do this already with heli's. Just look at the player names when you see a heli. It's damn near always the same names you see using them all the way through matches (They clearly just sit in the menu waiting instead of playing the game)

    Some of the vehicles have like 4 or 5 weapons on them (If they were all god tier, no one would be able to get anywhere near them)

  • aksur83's avatar
    aksur83
    4 years ago
    @BizzyVaping Good point and i think you are right about it coz they have multiple weapons. It just feels funny when you have hit the guy with machine gun many seconds and he just not die is he some kind of iron man :D
  • Lvl_90_Mudkip's avatar
    Lvl_90_Mudkip
    4 years ago
    @aksur83 Spoken like someone who hasn't used the tank that much. The LMG and HMG are both very useful.

    Also the drone isn't the problem. The fact you can put C5 on it and insta kill any vehicle is the problem.
  • ElliotLH's avatar
    ElliotLH
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    Time may prove me wrong, but I can't help but think that drone-stuff will ease off as people get bored. 

    If that doesn't happen, I wouldn't like to lose the ability to attach C5 to the drone altogether, however it feels like there needs to be a trade off. Really I'd be OK with the roadkill element being removed in favour of the player needing to detonate the C5 themselves. At least then the tonk has a sporting chance of getting away in time. It's just a bit too easy right now. 

  • Terminator00000's avatar
    Terminator00000
    4 years ago
    @ElliotLH wrote:

    Time may prove me wrong, but I can't help but think that drone-stuff will ease off as people get bored. 

    You underestimate the greed of people for cheap kills. As long as there is a way of a no-risk-high-reward-kill, people will abuse the * out of it. 

    This is the reason, why meta slaves promote anything, that doesn't require any effort to get tons of kills and are the first if their toy gets nerfed. And then only find the next meta weapon and only play this.

  • ElliotLH's avatar
    ElliotLH
    Hero+
    4 years ago
    @Terminator000001 wrote:
    @ElliotLH wrote:

    Time may prove me wrong, but I can't help but think that drone-stuff will ease off as people get bored. 

    You underestimate the greed of people for cheap kills. As long as there is a way of a no-risk-high-reward-kill, people will abuse the * out of it. 

    This is the reason, why meta slaves promote anything, that doesn't require any effort to get tons of kills and are the first if their toy gets nerfed. And then only find the next meta weapon and only play this.

    @Terminator000001 You're probably right. I do tend to try to be positive about player habits but it sometimes burns me. 

    It sure is easy kills though and I'm trying not to use it too much myself for that reason. 

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