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IAF_Nobanaa
4 years ago

Remove XP from bots -> to fix Portal

Edit: I now realize my suggestion was foolish. I forgot people use bots to create Co-Op experiences like those in Insurgency: Sandstorm. Having played a lot of co-op in Insurgency, I agree that it is damn fun with a group of friends, and it should not hinder your progression. I agree with messages below that DICE should just get their head out their a** and remove XP caps from Portal and allow unlocks without taking anything away from players.

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So one of the foolish things in this game is the addition of bots. They may work in fun joking-around-servers in Portal, but that's about it. They've allowed people to create insane farming servers which we've all heard about. And because of those, for some reason DICE has seen fit to put all sorts of limitations on Portal. For many of us, Portal would be the only reason of buying the game - if it didn't have all those restrictions.

I suggest removing gaining XP and unlocking stuff from killing bots, completely. This would allow the XP-limit from Portal servers to be removed and the kills in Portal servers to count towards unlocks. Both of these things would finally encourage people and communities to put up Portal servers and play the game.

I haven't bought the game (and I won't in its current state), but I played it plenty during the free weekend. During that weekend, there were about two or three normal (=non-farming) servers which had either regular rules or Hardcore-rules - and all of those were up for only a fraction of the weekend.

So not only was there only a small portion of the day I was able to play how I liked (Hardcore and/or normal with adjustments, like certain specialist bans) - after the rounds I noticed that all my kills in Portal didn't count and there was a cap on XP.

Why would any community put any effort into setting up a Portal server, if the game completely discourages you from playing on your own server by limiting XP and not granting unlocks? Even if that server was a regular server with no bots.

Remove gaining XP from killing bots (Portal and other modes) and then remove all the limits affecting Portal. Maybe there's a chance to salvage Portal and the game.

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  • Matty101yttam's avatar
    Matty101yttam
    4 years ago

    Set the bot XP gain to a combination of bot health and skill, 10% bot health = 10%XP, same goes for skill...divide the skill levels between 100% and each drop in difficulty reduces the xp gain.

    Then have diminishing returns over a cooldown timer, like 1 kill = regular xp, 2nd kill within a second of the 1st is 50%, 3rd within 5 seconds is 25% and every kill after that only get 5-10% xp

    Set the cooldown timer to something reasonable like 30 seconds.

    So for reasonable play 90% of kills will awards reasonable xp

    For lower hp/skill bots in regular play you get scaled xp that's still within reason

    For modded portal servers that lock low hp bots into position for farming at high speed they get pretty much nothing unless they wait out the kill cooldown at which point they may as well play regular.

  • ShevermiN's avatar
    ShevermiN
    4 years ago

    @Matty101yttamSee really not that hard to solve a problem that they had to know was coming....

    All it would have taken was one zoom meeting and less than an hour's discussion....

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